Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
hi pod squad hi it's just us today hi this is one of those days where we just snuggle up on the couch in the on the metaphorical couch which is so huge that it holds all of us and we take your questions and we just spiral around them together which is kind of my idea of heaven and so today we are talking about some really cool things like What's the difference between a vacation and a trip?
And why can't lesbians figure that out?
AKA how Glennon used a Bible story to get out of ever going camping. So that's the other way of talking about that.
It's a stretch.
She comes in with a stretch of... Listen, if Christians know anything, it's how to use the Bible to get what we want. Secondly, we've talked about, is it arrogant for a memoirist to write her story? Can't wait for you to hear that answer. And number three, we talked about Amanda's journey in letting go of some control that has recently made her life difficult. And it is.
an amazing conversation you will not want to miss this episode y'all it's so good all right snuggle up let's get on the couch well hello welcome to we can do hard things today's one of our favorite days on this show where we actually just get to sit with your questions and
spiral around them with you pretend we're all on a big couch um snuggling up talking about life together this is i think our sweet spot the happiest place well the couch has always been the happiest place that is our sweet spot hey want to get some popcorn and go to the sweet spot i do thank you for asking
That's right. Today's the sweet spot.
Let's hear from the pod squad. What do they want to talk about?
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of writing about oneself?
Yes. I don't know in what context. She just said the word tent. Come on, babe.
You and me under the stars, the breeze, marshmallows that are being roasted like on the sticks. Camping is nature. God made nature. Glennon, you love God. So...
I do love God.
Yeah.
And you're right that God did make nature. That feels true. I'm just thinking, you know what? I'm thinking right now of this story in the Bible. Now that you have brought God into this, Abby Wambach. And I'm thinking of a story that happened right before Jesus died.
Okay.
Jesus gathered all of his disciples around him and he said to them, I have come to you and I have done miraculous works. That is true. And now I have to leave and go back to heaven. Right. But don't worry, he said to his disciples, because you will stay here and you will do miracles. Far greater works than I have ever done. Right. Okay, that's what Jesus said.
And as you're talking, I'm thinking, here's what I think that Jesus meant by that. I think Jesus meant, yes, I, God, made the breeze. I made the breeze.
Yeah, okay. Which is important.
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Chapter 3: How do you define a vacation versus a trip?
And I didn't think of anything smart to say in the moment. I just have thought about it every night since then, like it's my Roman Empire in my mind, wanting that moment back every time. I mean, side note, I think it was around when Untamed came out. I've mentioned this before, but one of the major newspapers in the book section said Glennon Doyle has a third memoir, question mark.
And then underneath it was David Sedaris is twenty eight thousand memoir out today. Question mark. Like she's still talking. This woman is still talking and we're letting her. Anyway, there are many ways to look at it. What I can tell you is that what drives me, what I am most curious about in the world, the only thing I can get myself to care about
really is like the human condition what it's like to be a human and how do we operate and how does this experience work here and how can we do it in a way that brings us more joy and peace and how can we work in community with each other me being human and you being human and do better down here and have I'm that's all I care about like some people care about science and so they
are constantly experimenting with Petri dishes or whatever. I don't know, but this is my driving question. Okay. Now, when you want to spend your life thinking about spiraling around, being curious about the human condition, I suppose you could use for that experiment yourself or you could use other people. Okay. Okay.
What I kind of wanted to say to that person, if I could redo it, was I can barely, I use myself, I'm interested in the human condition. So I use, I offer myself up as the specimen. And that's what I'm doing all the time. I'm trying to say this story, is this about all of us?
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Chapter 4: Why is camping a controversial topic among lesbians?
I'll use myself so that we can talk about this thing. Maybe that's arrogant. I don't know. What I can't imagine being arrogant enough to do is be interested in the human experience and only use other people as specimens. I can barely... I can't... No, I shouldn't say I can barely. I can't even truly figure out my own motives or emotions or drives or ambitions or faults.
I sure as hell would never purport to publicly try to understand someone else's. I would never, ever look at someone else's art or life or something... and write pieces about that person, analyze that person's motives, take apart that person's life and feelings and whatever, and come up with some kind of premise about that person.
To me, that is far more arrogant than using your own life and saying, I am really interested about this, and I would like to create a campfire for us all to talk about it around, so I'm going to use myself and never you. If you want to bring your own thing, let's talk. But I will only use my own story in this experiment that I want to spend my life doing. That is what I would say.
Like maybe it's arrogant. I can't imagine the chutzpah. the whatever it takes to say, I'm going to use you. I'm going to criticize your story, your life, your whatever. That is what, when I read those pieces, that blows my mind. Maybe it blows their mind to see me mining my own story again, but it blows my fucking mind when I see people decide to do that with someone else's life.
That is my answer. And I want to say to anyone who feels the same way as I do, your story is your fucking right to tell. And by the way, they only say this about women. Nobody says to David Sedaris or whoever the hell, whatever guy is writing the next thing, that it's a navel gazing, that it's confessional, that it's this or it's that. Men are writing about life.
Women are writing about themselves. Men are exploring the great ideas and women are navel gazing. I actually believe that there is a space that most of the drama and trauma that's happening in our lives and in our world is because people aren't doing enough fucking navel-gazing.
Like, maybe people really need to sit with their own story, work out their own shit before they unleash it on everybody else. I encourage it. So... All of that is to say, I will tell my damn story however the hell I want to for the rest of my life.
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Chapter 5: How has Amanda's perspective on control changed?
And I will continue to resist analyzing, criticizing, or pathologizing, or pretending to understand anyone else's life. I will stick with myself.
I think that this is such an important and brave thing to say because so many people, they have this kind of self-consciousness about having any kind of self-importance as if this one wild and precious life that we have here is not important or something. And like...
the impulse for somebody to want to tell their story to the world is claiming, it's like putting a stake in the ground, saying like, I am a person that has a voice and has something to say. And there's something really important about that, being able to say that not just only to the world, but to yourself. It's like the self-sovereignty that we've been talking a lot about.
I just think that that's so fascinating. And I am so glad that you're a writer. Your writing has helped me know myself better.
Thank you. There's something like that is about, it's presented as male and female, but I don't know. It's anything that wants to explore inner life. Is disregarded or shunned or, you know, that's women's stuff. I mean, that's been going on forever. Virginia Woolf.
Witches.
Would have been, you know, that was because she was so focused on internal life and internal whatever that she would have been talked about as the like beach read of the time. Right. That was like so feminine. I rarely think. I have something to say and I'm going to say it.
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Chapter 6: How do societal expectations shape our goals?
I do sometimes like every once in a while, you know, the glad thing or for the freedom fleet or the, I do sometimes feel, feel that, but it's rarer than my feeling of like, I'm so curious about this thing. Like, what is this? What is this human experience? And then the idea of like my Angelos, if, if, if I'm human, nothing human can be foreign to me. That also means if I'm experiencing this,
My entire career is based on the assumption that I am not special. That is the entire... I would never write this shit if I thought it was just me. That would be too terrifying. I believe that we all have our different flavors, but the substance is the same. The human experience is the same. If I thought I was special or different, I would never be writing any of this.
A biography is, here's my life. A memoir is here is what I'm experiencing that I think is about you. Right. That I think is about all of us.
It's like you have written three memoirs, not because you believe you're exceptional, but precisely because you believe that you are not exceptional. That like this is a state of the human condition. And if you believed you were exceptional, all the better for you. I'm just saying that your belief that the more specific and intimate the story is, the more universal it is of the human experience.
happens to be why that you're producing this work. That if you were like, look at me, I'm a rare little unicorn and I want to tell you about myself, then the motivation to be curious about that would be less robust. Yes. I also think there's something... Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
No, I was just going to say I just really do at my core, and they might feel the people who say this about memoirs might have something different at their core, and I respect that. For me, I cannot imagine being a critic of a memoirist and thinking that memoirist is arrogant. Right. To me, being a critic of another memoirist is the most arrogant thing that you could be, that I have this...
all-encompassing knowledge that can decide whether your story matters, whether you're wrong or right. I'm over here going, I'm trying to figure out if I matter, if my story matters, if this is real. Sometimes to be self-focused is more humble than to be other-focused, especially if you're judging the other. Yes. It's what I think.
Yes. It's like it takes a lot more arrogance – to tell someone they don't have a right to be a main character than just someone who's a main character.
Like... Exactly. The amount of times that people have asked me to write a piece about this person or that person or this memoir or that book or that... Never. Absolutely not. I will read it. I will have feelings about it. I will have opinions about it. I will think it sucks or it's amazing. I will have a conversation with the author. I would never...
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Chapter 7: What role does self-reflection play in personal growth?
And this is a flavor of that to me. And I understand, I feel it constantly when my writing is written about. I get it. I understand what's happening. The dismissal of it, I continue to believe that women's stories matter, that women's lives matter. And I also know that in a world that hates women, Every time a woman dares to speak, people will find a way to hate it. Yes.
They'll use different words. They'll use different little dismissing things. They'll couch it in language that they can forgive themselves for later. But the dismissal of misogyny is at the center of it.
Chapter 8: How can we redefine our understanding of success?
Like, I always think of the Audre Lorde quote, like, anything that I accept about myself cannot be used against me. And so this idea that you are naming all of the things about yourself, which then other women can see in themselves and name for themselves and claim for themselves, it stops being a weapon used against us if it's something that we see and claim on our own. And that is...
Hugely important because everyone's scared to say the thing because they know it's weaponized. But here's the truth. If you say the thing and claim the thing, it defangs the thing.
Exactly. That's why I'm like, if you're going to write, write the shit out of it. Write an expose first so nobody else can. That's one of the great comforts of my life is nobody can write an expose that I haven't already written about myself. Great question. Thank you for allowing me to get all of that off of my chest. That felt good.
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