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I love that. So there are some habits that are really simple, right? Like to use one of your examples is wearing a seatbelt. And then some are a little bit, they seem more involved or complex, like I'm trying to stop smoking or I'm trying to drink less or work out more. Do you feel like the same strategic plan works in both cases or is it different depending on the complexity of the habit?

I love that. So there are some habits that are really simple, right? Like to use one of your examples is wearing a seatbelt. And then some are a little bit, they seem more involved or complex, like I'm trying to stop smoking or I'm trying to drink less or work out more. Do you feel like the same strategic plan works in both cases or is it different depending on the complexity of the habit?

Well, the book is called Better Than Before, Mastering the Habits of Our Everyday Lives. Thank you so much for being here.

Well, the book is called Better Than Before, Mastering the Habits of Our Everyday Lives. Thank you so much for being here.

Well, GretchenRubin.com. Gretchen, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me.

Well, GretchenRubin.com. Gretchen, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me.