Adam Grant

So I don't need to engage with this one.

I mean, it's... How would I describe it?

It's like...

It's gross and it's a little upsetting.

And it's not like watching a Civil War movie where there's a reason for depicting it.

You don't have to show me all this.

It felt like the gore version of clickbait.

Whereas when you watch The Office, it serves a purpose.

They're making a point.

It is, because I guess, you know, as I listen to this discussion, or as I reflect on what I just said, I think that maybe Game of Thrones was trying to make a point about the brutality of the world that they were depicting.

But I don't know that that point needs to be made, or at least it doesn't need to be made to me.

Whereas you don't get the office without awkwardness.

And Brene, you are the queen of awkward.

It's in your tagline.

Stay brave and you say stay awkward.

So don't you want to raise your awkwardness tolerance?

Yeah.

I can relate to that.

But I think that, I think world-class comedy is rare.

And I think The Office was the funniest material on television for a whole decade.