Adam Gurri

Every partition in history has created an internal minority.

Partition and independence are not actually solutions.

There are things to be done in the most extreme of possible circumstances.

The war of independence in this country was, even though the population was much smaller, one of the bloodiest wars in our history, I think in total terms.

It was a very, very bloody war.

partition in India and Pakistan, not exactly what I would call a success, right?

There are some cases where it has worked in terms of creating a little more local regional piece.

The track record is not great though.

And most of the places where you actually end up with a little more homogeneity,

in fact, are not things you want to replicate.

Like Germany, for example, or Poland, or Ukraine.

They're not how-to manuals, nor should they be.

But I worry that the actual people in power right now do think it's a how-to manual.

When Trump last year said he wanted to be deporting 20 million people, that would be

by order of magnitude, the largest forced population transfer in human history ever.

And every large scale forced population transfer has involved death on an enormous scale, you know, and certainly like injury and malnutrition and things like that on an even larger scale.

Yes.

Yes.

So the nice synthesis that happened with the communitarian critique and the liberal response is you have to understand that communities do matter, that you have to you have to actually face that.

And I think liberalism, as it originally was developed, understood that very well because they were mostly looking at different religious communities, different national communities.