Adam Gurri

It's, this is, this is, this is a, this is a value system for everybody.

Um, uh, and then it, it's,

egalitarian so it stresses individual equality um and it also uh commits to protecting pluralism essentially different ways of living um so like that's one way of cutting it there's a lot there's there's a lot of different ways you can you as with any philosophy like this you can sort of parse it um but the way that i think what's nice about the way that paul does it is liberalism is i mean we call it liberal currents because there's a bunch of different

It's a big tradition and it spans from his different ideologies to the utilitarians with Bentham who are extremely technocratic and calculative to, you know, like your John Stuart Mill, who actually also bad example because he was also utilitarian, but he's very humanistic in his approach.

Yeah.

And yeah, I mean, there's a whole range of different types.

Right.

I mean, more and more today, it kind of is.

But historically, a lot of conservatives were what Matt McManus, a professor of political theory and one of our writers,

calls right liberalism.

So he doesn't even think liberalism is something you should put on the left-right spectrum, which I agree with.

It's a particular set of ideas, which can be right-wing or left-wing.

It's hard for it to be right-wing if your society is not in some way a liberal society, right?

If your society is Saudi Arabia, there's absolutely no way to be a right-wing liberal.

Because you have to be fairly reformist.

You have to be against the establishment in some way.

But in America, it was pretty easy to be right-wing liberal.

You just said the Bill of Rights is all we need.

And anything more robust than that, or any interpretation of that that is more robust, we're against.

Yeah.