Adam Leventhal

you know uh talking in chat or on a google meet or uh in lots of these different kind of remote collaboration tools recall like we didn't really have that like when we would when we would work remotely at sun in the like early 2000s or whatever like you would get on a conference call but like there was no uh there was no like video chat or anything i think we did a little bit of like

I think we were on like AOL instant messenger and stuff like randomly.

I think we were on like AOL instant messenger and stuff like randomly.

I think, like, why would you use that for? That doesn't make any sense. I feel like people are going to, you know, If someone comes to my house and like rings the doorbell, like my older son who's now moved out, but like didn't know how to react, like total panic that like somebody would show up at your door. I feel like that's how people are going to regard email. Like I'm receiving an email.

I think, like, why would you use that for? That doesn't make any sense. I feel like people are going to, you know, If someone comes to my house and like rings the doorbell, like my older son who's now moved out, but like didn't know how to react, like total panic that like somebody would show up at your door. I feel like that's how people are going to regard email. Like I'm receiving an email.

This is like a highly aggressive like action.

This is like a highly aggressive like action.

right and there's like a fatigue thing i think like for for commuting too like i think it just grinds on you uh you know even if you're working you know less hands on keyboard or whatever i think when i personally like have to take public transportation in terms of commuting sorry man what were you saying no i was gonna say i think it's actually interesting where i don't know if it's changed like specifically oh well at this time i walk out but i think it has eroded goodwill

right and there's like a fatigue thing i think like for for commuting too like i think it just grinds on you uh you know even if you're working you know less hands on keyboard or whatever i think when i personally like have to take public transportation in terms of commuting sorry man what were you saying no i was gonna say i think it's actually interesting where i don't know if it's changed like specifically oh well at this time i walk out but i think it has eroded goodwill

This example you're coming up with, I remember this moment in my career in particular where it was like Sunday night, I was working on getting something done and I got an email from my manager that said, hey, you took a day off on Tuesday and you didn't record it properly. And here's how you record it properly. And here I am Sunday night working my ass off.

This example you're coming up with, I remember this moment in my career in particular where it was like Sunday night, I was working on getting something done and I got an email from my manager that said, hey, you took a day off on Tuesday and you didn't record it properly. And here's how you record it properly. And here I am Sunday night working my ass off.

And I just remember feeling like just so enraged by that moment. Right. Yeah, and that was at Sun. No, no, it actually was at Delphix. It was at Delphix. That makes a little more sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The folks at Sun wouldn't be paying attention. Yeah, exactly.

And I just remember feeling like just so enraged by that moment. Right. Yeah, and that was at Sun. No, no, it actually was at Delphix. It was at Delphix. That makes a little more sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The folks at Sun wouldn't be paying attention. Yeah, exactly.

And those remote access token cards, those one-time password cards, was somehow load-bearing for a long time for how some IT would let us get in remotely. Yes.

And those remote access token cards, those one-time password cards, was somehow load-bearing for a long time for how some IT would let us get in remotely. Yes.

I think my critique of remote work at the time was that it was very haphazard. Because the benefit of going to the office was conversing with certain folks or collaborating with certain folks. But then if it turned out like, oh, they didn't go in that day. They didn't go in that day. That's right. Then you sort of feel like, why did I get on the train? What am I doing here?

I think my critique of remote work at the time was that it was very haphazard. Because the benefit of going to the office was conversing with certain folks or collaborating with certain folks. But then if it turned out like, oh, they didn't go in that day. They didn't go in that day. That's right. Then you sort of feel like, why did I get on the train? What am I doing here?

Why did I work to get down here?

Why did I work to get down here?

Yeah. Well, you know, we talk about Oxide. We got, you founded Oxide. as it turns out, sort of moments before the pandemic. Moments before the pandemic, yeah. And I do wonder, if we were starting Oxide today, what would the office situation look like? Or if you were starting it in March 2020 rather than late 2019, Like maybe would have got an office.