Adam Leventhal

And those remote access token cards, those one-time password cards, was somehow load-bearing for a long time for how some IT would let us get in remotely. Yes.

I think my critique of remote work at the time was that it was very haphazard. Because the benefit of going to the office was conversing with certain folks or collaborating with certain folks. But then if it turned out like, oh, they didn't go in that day. They didn't go in that day. That's right. Then you sort of feel like, why did I get on the train? What am I doing here?

I think my critique of remote work at the time was that it was very haphazard. Because the benefit of going to the office was conversing with certain folks or collaborating with certain folks. But then if it turned out like, oh, they didn't go in that day. They didn't go in that day. That's right. Then you sort of feel like, why did I get on the train? What am I doing here?

Why did I work to get down here?

Why did I work to get down here?

Yeah. Well, you know, we talk about Oxide. We got, you founded Oxide. as it turns out, sort of moments before the pandemic. Moments before the pandemic, yeah. And I do wonder, if we were starting Oxide today, what would the office situation look like? Or if you were starting it in March 2020 rather than late 2019, Like maybe would have got an office.

Yeah. Well, you know, we talk about Oxide. We got, you founded Oxide. as it turns out, sort of moments before the pandemic. Moments before the pandemic, yeah. And I do wonder, if we were starting Oxide today, what would the office situation look like? Or if you were starting it in March 2020 rather than late 2019, Like maybe would have got an office.

Maybe there would have been a place that we needed to like warehouse materials or do some of this bring up or whatever. But it would certainly have looked differently because when you got that office in 2019, sure, you thought we're going to have whatever it is, 50% remote, 20% remote. But you envisioned a building, a room with a bunch of people in it. Like that's what it was for.

Maybe there would have been a place that we needed to like warehouse materials or do some of this bring up or whatever. But it would certainly have looked differently because when you got that office in 2019, sure, you thought we're going to have whatever it is, 50% remote, 20% remote. But you envisioned a building, a room with a bunch of people in it. Like that's what it was for.

That's right. Operations. A bunch of these double E's had to be. Yeah, totally. You're right. It looks very different and I'm not sure we are. Yeah.

That's right. Operations. A bunch of these double E's had to be. Yeah, totally. You're right. It looks very different and I'm not sure we are. Yeah.

And that I don't think he gets. So two and a half years ago when we were talking about this, Matt was on and he said that he hoped remote work wasn't just viewed as a cost savings. I think that at the time people were like shedding their offices and feeling like that was a huge benefit. Not just a cost savings, but instead a way to hire the best people, as you're saying, Brian.

And that I don't think he gets. So two and a half years ago when we were talking about this, Matt was on and he said that he hoped remote work wasn't just viewed as a cost savings. I think that at the time people were like shedding their offices and feeling like that was a huge benefit. Not just a cost savings, but instead a way to hire the best people, as you're saying, Brian.

And I think also in that episode, speaking to a question in chat about interns and something, Chris, you had mentioned about, I think, some of the generational differences. One of the questions we had was, what's it like for new employees? What's it like for new college grads coming in? And I think at the time, I was really worried about it.

And I think also in that episode, speaking to a question in chat about interns and something, Chris, you had mentioned about, I think, some of the generational differences. One of the questions we had was, what's it like for new employees? What's it like for new college grads coming in? And I think at the time, I was really worried about it.

And I feel like that is maybe my OK Boomer moment, because these folks... Especially if you're a student who's graduating from college and you spent a big chunk of your time remote during the pandemic, you know how to do this. You figured it out. This is how you operate. And so for the person in chat asking about the college intern starting, I think you meet them where they are.

And I feel like that is maybe my OK Boomer moment, because these folks... Especially if you're a student who's graduating from college and you spent a big chunk of your time remote during the pandemic, you know how to do this. You figured it out. This is how you operate. And so for the person in chat asking about the college intern starting, I think you meet them where they are.

You figure out how they want to work. Because they've already figured out how to do a bunch of this stuff. And yeah, for me coming out of school, it was so important to sit at the lunchroom table. It was so important to stumble into people's office and ask them questions or whatever.

You figure out how they want to work. Because they've already figured out how to do a bunch of this stuff. And yeah, for me coming out of school, it was so important to sit at the lunchroom table. It was so important to stumble into people's office and ask them questions or whatever.

But I think that different generations figure out their own ways that are going to be different than the ways that we were familiar with doing them.