Adam Parsons

So I think...

There are many on the right of Israeli politics who think that Europe has left them behind, that they can't count on European friendships.

And that doesn't go across the board.

That's a spectrum.

But the one nation they cannot afford to ostracize is the United States.

That is, for Israel, which has so few diplomatic friends left,

that is their big supporter and the fact that yesterday donald trump criticized ben gavir that will have been noticed also will have been noticed was was trump saying that basically benjamin netanyahu does whatever trump tells him to do that will have felt very very painful that's the relationship

they have to hold on to.

But clearly, this is a nation that imports and exports.

High tech is something of which it's enormously proud and very successful.

And it does.

And it's more pragmatic position.

It knows that it needs to have a working relationship with Europe.

But I mean, hey, look at the Eurovision Song Contest.

Multiple countries,

boycotting that because of the presence of Israel.

I don't think any Israeli politician is kidding themselves that relations with Europe are in a good place.

yeah that that for sure is true but things like eurovision are seen as emblematic of a of a wider lack of trust and ultimately the sort of for further right you will go with politics the more you get into the realms of of ideology of support of that fundamental backing of of the state of israel now trade is important of course for this country but so is developing ties with the rest of the region

I don't think that trade with Europe would be seen by anyone here as the be-all and end-all, particularly if it was portrayed by some in this political sphere as being a sort of erosion of Israel's sovereign right to make its own decisions.

Yeah, no problems at all.