Adam Stacoviak

I personally would prefer to self-host it.

And I'm curious why, given that you largely haven't done a lot of infrastructure in the history of Tailscale, like you've pretty much been a pointer in a lot of cases and not a lot of infrastructure required to build what you've built.

Why now?

Why build out instances and hosting and, I guess, responsibility?

Liability too.

All the abilities, you know?

But yeah, it's really days for us too.

You know, there's something else I'm, this thread I'm pulling on too with this self-hosted world is like, you know, especially in your history and just, just go with me here and think, think out loud if you don't mind, put all your cards on the table, David.

I've been thinking about this world of self-host.

We just had a really good conversation with the founder of TL Draw.

And one of the things that TL Draw basically does is sell an SDK.

So it's not even fully baked software.

It's the SDK to build on top of.

It's the concentrate.

You just add water, essentially.

Which is one kind of fascinating idea.

Great business, a lot of upside, no infrastructure, you know, high margins because there's no servers to spin up.

There's no attached to AWS or GCP or you pick your cloud and you're now competing with them at some point because you've got software that you're putting out there in the world as licensed software, whether it's truly, you know, MIT licensed open source or it's source available software.

open source code, not to blend the terms there, just to be clear about that.

But you got this world where you have, I think we'll have a lot more people wanting to self-host and those people can still be customers.