Adam22

Yeah.

Yeah.

But now that's one crazy thing that I see is... What's that channel?

856, I think it is.

People are really out here documenting the f*** out of shows.

Yeah.

And have giant fan bases from that shit.

It's crazy too, because it's like realistically five or 10% of the country are even in a position to really consistently be able to see shows.

Like you could have that opinion in LA or New York or whatever, but like, you know, many states in the country, you're just like almost never getting a chance to like see the bands you like.

And then that's even more pronounced when you go over to Europe or Asia or some shit like that.

Like if you're a Trey fan in Europe, you probably only get to see you guys like every couple of years or something.

Like my first time in Europe was like a weird, uh, revelatory moment because like me growing up in New Hampshire is like, we would,

for sure drive two or three hours to go to providence to see a show or whatever that was nothing that was just like a regular show it didn't even occur to us that we were driving some far distance and then i go to the uk and i realized that these guys can go to ibiza by getting on the plane for two hours yeah and it's like a different world for sure you know everything you do that it's like you can go to you can go to ibiza for 80 dollars yeah on a flight yeah you know what i mean it's like cheaper than the gas that we were for sure yeah

yeah no for sure like if i have a friend in long beach it just feels like a fucking zillion hours away for sure yeah just not touching it no definitely so okay uh i know you guys have this whole like viral thing which you know i'm where somebody i don't know if it was you you said you created metalcore and that kind of so then i watched like a finn mckinsey video about this conversation that was pretty interesting so what are your thoughts on the origin of that genre

Because that Finn McKenzie video, he's kind of using like integrity and earth crisis as like the starting point, which to me,

I got into hardcore where bands like them and Heybreed were just the norm.

So for me, it's like kind of bizarre to be listening to Integrity and that this is not just like regular hardcore.

To me, it just sounds like hardcore.

Yeah.

I think that's cool.