Adrian Ma

After the break, we'll hear about how those documents led Ava and her team to real people whose stories shed new light on how Epstein and Maxwell used their access to a highly respected institution to target girls.

From NPR, I'm Adrian Ma.

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Reporters here at NPR noticed the name of a highly respected youth camp popping up repeatedly in the Epstein files.

Interlochen Center for the Arts.

When intern Ava Berger started combing through these documents, she knew there were stories there, if she could only find the right thread to follow.

As we sat down for this week's Reporter's Notebook, I asked her what it was like to look into the Epstein files.

So this reporting involved hundreds of documents and sifting through and piecing a lot of things together.

How do you go about assembling a coherent story from all that?

Can you say more about verification?

Because with countless pages to sift through and all kinds of conversations and records, how do you verify what you're looking at and know that you're getting the accurate story?

Also in the story, you interviewed a woman who was a camper at the time who talked about how she met Epstein and Maxwell.

And in the story, she's anonymous.

Can you tell us about the process of what it was like engaging with her and, you know, asking her to tell her story?

Because it sounds like it could be difficult.

Yeah.

Do you have a general sense of how long she talked to you?

So it's been a couple weeks since you published this story.

What's the reaction to it been?

Ava, we mentioned earlier that you're an intern at NPR.