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But for NPR CEO Catherine Marr, this fight is about more than funding.

But for NPR CEO Catherine Marr, this fight is about more than funding.

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Thursday, May 29th. Coming up on the show, NPR versus the Trump administration.

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Thursday, May 29th. Coming up on the show, NPR versus the Trump administration.

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Thursday, May 29th. Coming up on the show, NPR versus the Trump administration.

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The federal government got into the public media game in 1967 with the passage of the Public Broadcasting Act. The act created a private nonprofit called the Corporation for Public Broadcasting that would act as a steward for public media. PBS was founded two years later and has been home to legendary programs like Sesame Street, Antiques Roadshow, and the PBS NewsHour.

The federal government got into the public media game in 1967 with the passage of the Public Broadcasting Act. The act created a private nonprofit called the Corporation for Public Broadcasting that would act as a steward for public media. PBS was founded two years later and has been home to legendary programs like Sesame Street, Antiques Roadshow, and the PBS NewsHour.

The federal government got into the public media game in 1967 with the passage of the Public Broadcasting Act. The act created a private nonprofit called the Corporation for Public Broadcasting that would act as a steward for public media. PBS was founded two years later and has been home to legendary programs like Sesame Street, Antiques Roadshow, and the PBS NewsHour.

NPR, launched in 1970, is known for its news and culture radio programs and eventually podcasts. And I should mention, I worked at NPR for about one year on one of those podcasts as an editor. Joe, can you take us back? When does criticism of public broadcasting actually start?

NPR, launched in 1970, is known for its news and culture radio programs and eventually podcasts. And I should mention, I worked at NPR for about one year on one of those podcasts as an editor. Joe, can you take us back? When does criticism of public broadcasting actually start?

NPR, launched in 1970, is known for its news and culture radio programs and eventually podcasts. And I should mention, I worked at NPR for about one year on one of those podcasts as an editor. Joe, can you take us back? When does criticism of public broadcasting actually start?