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Funding was threatened from as early as 1969. Fred Rogers himself, host of the classic children's show Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, testified before Congress to defend the importance of public broadcasting.

Funding was threatened from as early as 1969. Fred Rogers himself, host of the classic children's show Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, testified before Congress to defend the importance of public broadcasting.

Funding was threatened from as early as 1969. Fred Rogers himself, host of the classic children's show Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, testified before Congress to defend the importance of public broadcasting.

As far as federal budget appropriations go, public media is a pretty small bucket. Congress had allocated $535 million a year for public broadcasting over the next two fiscal years. About 70% of that money goes to more than 1,500 local public stations across the country. How important is this money for local stations?

As far as federal budget appropriations go, public media is a pretty small bucket. Congress had allocated $535 million a year for public broadcasting over the next two fiscal years. About 70% of that money goes to more than 1,500 local public stations across the country. How important is this money for local stations?

As far as federal budget appropriations go, public media is a pretty small bucket. Congress had allocated $535 million a year for public broadcasting over the next two fiscal years. About 70% of that money goes to more than 1,500 local public stations across the country. How important is this money for local stations?

This year, the long-simmering tension over these funds came to a head. In March, Congress called on the CEOs of both NPR and PBS to give testimony on their network's content, which some Republicans say is biased. Walk us through what happened in the spring with Congress and NPR and PBS.

This year, the long-simmering tension over these funds came to a head. In March, Congress called on the CEOs of both NPR and PBS to give testimony on their network's content, which some Republicans say is biased. Walk us through what happened in the spring with Congress and NPR and PBS.

This year, the long-simmering tension over these funds came to a head. In March, Congress called on the CEOs of both NPR and PBS to give testimony on their network's content, which some Republicans say is biased. Walk us through what happened in the spring with Congress and NPR and PBS.

It sounds like this happens, as you said, every few years. What was different this time?

It sounds like this happens, as you said, every few years. What was different this time?

It sounds like this happens, as you said, every few years. What was different this time?

The order came a few weeks after the White House released a memo with the title, The NPR-PBS Grift Has Ripped Us Off for Too Long. In it, the Trump administration accuses NPR and PBS of spreading, quote, radical woke propaganda disguised as news. Would you say specific to NPR, is there a sense that maybe NPR did get more liberal or more perceived to be so?

The order came a few weeks after the White House released a memo with the title, The NPR-PBS Grift Has Ripped Us Off for Too Long. In it, the Trump administration accuses NPR and PBS of spreading, quote, radical woke propaganda disguised as news. Would you say specific to NPR, is there a sense that maybe NPR did get more liberal or more perceived to be so?

The order came a few weeks after the White House released a memo with the title, The NPR-PBS Grift Has Ripped Us Off for Too Long. In it, the Trump administration accuses NPR and PBS of spreading, quote, radical woke propaganda disguised as news. Would you say specific to NPR, is there a sense that maybe NPR did get more liberal or more perceived to be so?

At the time, NPR's news leadership team strongly rejected Berliner's assessment, saying in a memo to staff that they are, quote, proud to stand behind the exceptional work that our desks and shows do to cover a wide range of challenging stories.

At the time, NPR's news leadership team strongly rejected Berliner's assessment, saying in a memo to staff that they are, quote, proud to stand behind the exceptional work that our desks and shows do to cover a wide range of challenging stories.

At the time, NPR's news leadership team strongly rejected Berliner's assessment, saying in a memo to staff that they are, quote, proud to stand behind the exceptional work that our desks and shows do to cover a wide range of challenging stories.

A Pew Research Center survey from earlier this year found that 12 percent of Republicans say they trust NPR as a source of news, compared to 47 percent of Democrats.

A Pew Research Center survey from earlier this year found that 12 percent of Republicans say they trust NPR as a source of news, compared to 47 percent of Democrats.