AG Gregoroff

And here's the thing.

What's the difference between leather you see on a wallet?

Leather in the seats of a BMW or a Ferrari.

Leather on a horse saddle or a gun holster.

What's the difference?

There's a gigantic array.

There's chrome tan, vegetable tan.

There's different weights, thicknesses, temperaments, full grain.

full grain top grain genuine leather there's endless amounts and there's tons of fake shit where if you have like a kenneth cole belt or a calvin klein belt or any of these like fashion brands take your kenneth cole belt right now get some scissors cut it in half and look at it look at it there's no leather in it at all it's paper core and it's a synthetic outside they don't use leather

Because you got to have a craftsman to use leather.

Very few companies actually use leather nowadays because it affects your profits.

You got to be.

I don't want to teach my staff how to be that.

That takes away from our money.

You want to have it stamped out by a machine, by a machine and by China.

So everything's done nowadays.

So I just started tinkering around in my garage to make flip flops.

And then my buddies would come by.

We'd hang out after jiu-jitsu.

And, you know, we'd be, we'd just f*** around.