Ahmed Mour

As the author, which we didn't mention at the beginning, as the author, one of the co-authors of After Zionism with Anthony Lowenstein, I'm going to pose a difficult question for you.

No, I'm just joking.

Not that you have to answer it fully, but where do you think we go from here?

Where do you think the pro-Palestine movement goes from here?

And if you can reflect in your answer on where we've stalled as well.

Yeah, that's why I, when a lot of people talk positively about the developments of the past two years, of course you want to feel hope.

You want to highlight how the discussion has changed here in America, how politics is moving forward.

You want to have some pathway.

But we never were able to prevent that genocide.

Nothing we did in any avenue.

All of us have different positionalities engaged with different actors.

none of it actually stopped that.

And that is a very hard pill to swallow.

I hope, I've always been hoping that at least that will allow us to get to the place of self-reflection about what radical solutions look like in the aftermath of this kind of disaster.

And yeah, I hope that that's where we go from here on my end.

Yeah.

Thank you so much, Ahmad.

This has been a really enriching discussion.

And I think that the listeners will benefit from this overarching view of pro-Palestine activism and its intersections with everything we're seeing unfold.

So thank you so much again.