Chapter 1: What themes are introduced in Mamdani's victory discussion?
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Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to public lands?
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we are back so let's turn to elon musk who is i mean i i guess for elon musk he is kind of having a normal one he is doing a bunch of his normal posts about how like western civilization is doomed unless the core weakness of suicidal empathy is recognized suicidal empathy It's so bad.
There's a very, very funny segment that I'm not going to play just because I do not believe in exposing our dear listeners to having to listen to Elon Musk try to talk. Is this a Joe Rogan clip? Yeah, there's a clip of him on Joe Rogan where Joe Rogan's like, okay, why did you call Mom Donnie a swindler? And it's just a minute straight of Elon Musk going, um, uh... He has nothing.
He can't even complete a full sentence. He, at one point, says that, you know, swindlers will always say what the audience wants to hear. And that's the only thing he's... That's the only complete thought that he gives. The rest of his sentence, or attempts at making a sentence, is just saying the word, um, like five times, and then saying that, well, you know, Zoran is actually quite charismatic.
His brain is so cooked. It's so good. And I say this as someone who stammers a significant amount. This is just, there's nothing going on in his brain. This is closer to head empty, no thoughts.
Yeah.
Head empty, no thoughts, derogatory, which derogatory comma bad. Always, always derogatory. Always, always derogatory. Oh, God. So there's been this sort of mix of like the world is falling with this also kind of, oh, my God, he won. And also this is a very attractive, charismatic dude. It is kind of breaking these people's brains that there's just like a hot guy who beat the shit out of them.
There's like definitely sort of like psychosexual politics going on here. You can see it in a bunch of weird shit these people are posting. No, absolutely. Freud would have a heyday. Adorno would have a heyday writing about the psychosexual aspect of the anti-Zoran and obviously some of the pro-Zoran people as well. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, this is a great things are happening in politics.
Even Trump has had to defend his looks as being better than Mr. Mamdani. Which, objectively, not true. Very funny. Saying he's, quote unquote, much better looking. It's so funny. But they also have this weird thing that some people on the left are doing.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Mamdani's win for the pro-Palestine movement?
It's a reminder that when we come together around strong, forward-looking leaders who care about the issues that matter, we can win. It's a very silly quote. I... The odds that Obama personally had at least one person on that campaign staff beat in Dream Occupy are very high. Like, it's...
Oh, it's really, truly this moment of like, brother, you spent so much time trying to make sure this wouldn't happen and you have failed. And now you're in the like, I'm going to do the Obama thing where like, I'm the friend of all the young leaders and I'm going to give them the worst advice you've ever heard in your entire life. I don't know.
Still, still, still have never gone over Obama personally intervening to make sure the NBA players didn't go on strike during the uprising. What are the worst post-presidential moments I've ever seen? I want to close on Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, who when asked about Mondami said, quote, he's a young man. Will he get good at it?
I haven't said about Mondami making and implementing good policies. I see a lot of people in big jobs, including big political jobs. They grow into it. I've seen a lot of people. They kind of swell into the job. They get worse. They, you know, all of it becomes about them. I'm hoping he's the good one, and that will be important for the future in New York, he said. True. True and real.
No, I mean, like, there's a lot of this slow capitulation, which we're even seeing with private comments from Trump that are being leaked into reporting through the New York Times, where in private, Trump has called Mr. Mamdani A slick and good talker and a talented politician.
And last Wednesday said that he might, quote, help him a little bit, maybe, unquote, and that he wants New York to succeed, which is, you know, contrary to like previous threats of like pulling back all funding from Donnie gets elected. Yeah, yeah. And I think part of this reaction is both how strong Zoran's victory is. We all know that Trump likes winners.
But also the fact that Zoran has very quickly tried to establish dominance over the president in some ways. But in a way that someone like Trump kind of respects. With Mamdani positioning himself as a legitimate adversarial figure to Trump. Yeah. Like right off the bat. And there's a little bit of the Trumpian mind that actually kind of appreciates that and thinks it's like cool and impressive.
During the first Trump administration, there was a whole running theory that if you could get Trump in a room with Hugo Chavez, you could make him a socialist in like an hour because he really does just repeat the last thing anyone in a room said to him. Totally.
We're finally going to test the theory of can we get a charismatic person in the room with him and make him do stuff he wouldn't normally do? And probably not. But, you know, I mean, the biggest thing right now is like the difference in immigration policy. But like Trump's from New York. Trump knows how much New York is a city built by and run by immigrants. Like he knows that.
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Chapter 4: How does electoralism play a role in current political dynamics?
Right, you could have said anti-terrorism and probably got there too, but no, it is securing our southern... Well, all our borders, actually. Southern border, northern border, eastern and western maritime borders. Obviously, they're... looking to prevent any more people coming in from Canada. Utah's not a border state. That is correct. That's why I didn't say borders.
I saw you go to search something.
I literally pulled up a map of the United States. I was like, I don't think Utah's a border state. Maybe I'm misremembering, but Utah's not a border state, is it? Utah is absolutely not a border state, Garrison. It's in fact not a border state. It is above Arizona, which is a border state. Yeah, so that is perhaps what's going on here.
Mike Lee has found a way to sell off public lands without selling off Utah public lands. Or in this case, not really sell off, but... destroy and degrade in a way which is very clearly going to lead to commercial exploitation, right? What Lee proposes, what Lee's bill has a bunch of co-sponsors. I believe the only border state senator co-sponsoring it is Ted Cruz. Yeah, makes sense.
Big public land respecter. But Lee's bill would allow the Department of Homeland Security to quote, inventory illegal roads and trails on public land within 100 miles of the border and then convert them into navigable roads. That is the part that makes no sense, right? When you look at Lee's statements, and I will read one of Lee's statements here.
So this is a statement on the Senate Energy Committee webpage where they talk about Energy and Natural Resources Committee. Here's a quote from Mike Lee explaining his bill. Quote, Biden's open border chaos is destroying America's crown jewels. I'm going to pause here to note that according to my watch, we're at November 7th, 2025. Well, your watch is wrong. Yeah, we are.
We're once again asking the most important question of our time. Who was president? Who is? He used the present tense. It's not even like talking about 2020 and pretending that Trump wasn't president. He's doing it right now.
That's the art.
Border policies are destroying our natural land. Yeah. We were a year after the election. You've had time to come to terms with this. You can't just keep pointing at Joe Biden. But apparently, I guess you can. They're going to keep doing that for three more years until there's a new guy. Yeah. So let's go on with Chairman Lee.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of canceling controversial figures like Nick Fuentes?
Most importantly, the American people expect us to be focusing on our political adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on the right. I disagree with, and even abhor, things that Nick Fuentes says. But canceling him is not the answer either. When we disagree with a person's thoughts and opinions, we challenge those ideas in debate.
And we have seen success in this approach as we continue to dismantle the vile ideas of the left.
Roberts primarily framed this as an issue of cancellation and included some pretty sketchy lines in that video. Roberts also said that heritage doesn't, quote, take direction from members or donors, unquote. This video was polarizing to say the least. Nick Fuentes fans, who are called groipers, and America first nationalists, rejoiced and claimed victory.
While many GOP establishment figures, Jewish Republicans, and many heritage employees were left bamboozled, the New York Post published internal heritage group chats with staff members writing that this was, quote, the most embarrassed I've ever been to be a heritage employee.
Chapter 6: How does the Heritage Foundation navigate internal dissent regarding its leadership?
It's not close. And, quote, I'm disgusted by this and don't understand how this premeditated and orchestrated response could come out of one of the biggest think tanks in the world, unquote. More texts read, quote, saying we can't cancel someone is safe space wokeism. And, quote, if we are labeled on the same side as Nick Fuentes, then we deserve to lose. talking with some of the interns.
I think that there is a growing number of them who actually agree with Fuentes' views. Now, beyond employee dissent, sources close to Heritage told the New York Post that the think tank has been quote-unquote hemorrhaging evangelical Christian and Jewish donors. David Bernstein, the author of Woke Antisemitism, said,
And a former member of the task force at Heritage called Project Esther, a national strategy to combat anti-Semitism, told the New York Post on November 3rd that he had resigned from his position over Kevin Roberts' remarks, citing the language of a venomous coalition aligned against Tucker.
To quote Jewish Insider, quote, Rabbi Yaakov Menkin, executive vice president of the Coalition for Jewish Values, told Jewish Insider that Roberts' message, quote, was the most tone deaf in both its content and timing that I've ever heard from a major Washington organization on any political side, unquote.
Chapter 7: What are the recent controversies surrounding Tucker Carlson and the GOP?
Mencken resigned from Heritage's Project Esther, the group's anti-Semitism initiative, last week in response to Roberts' video message defending Carlson.
Along with Mencken and Coalition for Jewish Voices, several other groups have also publicly disaffiliated from Heritage's anti-Semitism task force, including the National Jewish Advocacy Center, the Zionist Organization of America, and the Young Jewish Conservatives, unquote. On Halloween, Heritage President Kevin Roberts said,
made a post summarizing a small sampling of Fuentes' most racist, anti-Semitic, and pro-Hitler views, and said, quote, our task is to confront and challenge those poisonous ideas at every turn to prevent them from taking America to a very dark place. Join us, not to cancel.
but to guide, challenge, and strengthen the conversation, and be confident, as I am, that our best ideas at the heart of Western civilization will prevail. For those, especially young men, who are enticed by Fuentes and his acolytes online, there is a better way. Roberts has repeatedly said that attempting to cancel Fuentes would only grow his audience.
As opposed to whatever Roberts is doing by playing footsies with Tucker and Fuentes, resulting in multiple news stories a day name-dropping Fuentes and massively raising his public profile.
It would not invite him to a Heritage event or to my show, but the point is we have to find other avenues to engage the ridiculous ideas that he's saying, rather than, as many people have called for onlineā
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Chapter 8: How are the GOP and conservative movements responding to rising anti-Semitism?
that you can just shun him, that you can just ignore him and that the problem goes away. My motivation for posting that video yesterday, especially looking ahead towards 2026 and 2028, is that we have to engage those issues if we want to build a movement.
I understand that particularly for our Jewish friends who ought to be upset about Fuentes' comments about anti-Semitism, that he's just anathema. I agree with that as well. But if we're going to actually correct the scourge of anti-Semitism, we've got to go convince those, unfortunately, millions of young men who find that appealing. I do believe that they're convincible.
I believe that people like you, hopefully people like us at Heritage, and even people like Tucker might be able to play a role in that.
Following backlash to Kevin Roberts' initial statement, Roberts' chief of staff, Ryan Newhouse, resigned from Heritage after being reassigned as a senior advisor on housing policy, opposition sources told New York Post, was the quote-unquote Siberia of Heritage.
Before resigning, Newhouse reposted messages defending Roberts' video, including a post advocating that, quote-unquote, virtue-signaling employees at the Heritage Foundation should resign if they're so outraged by Roberts' statement. During Halloween weekend, lawyer Mark Goldfeder resigned from the Heritage-affiliated National Task Force to Combat Antisemitism, writing on XTheEverything app,
I cannot serve under someone who thinks Nazis are worth debating. On November 1st, Princeton University professor Robert P. George, member of the Heritage Board of Trustees, who allegedly has been attempting to oust Roberts as the head of the foundation in the wake of this controversy, posted on X the Everything app, quote, American conservatism today faces a challenge.
That challenge comes from those who reject our commitment to inherent and equal human dignity. They are seeking acceptance in the conservative movement and its institutions, and they do so with the ultimate objective of transforming them by undermining that commitment. I cannot accept the idea that we have no enemies to the right.
The white supremacists, anti-Semites, the eugenicists, bigots must not be welcome into our movement or treated as normal or acceptable, unquote. You sure about that, Robert P. George? This conservative commitment to inherent and equal human dignity? You sure about that? You sure about that?
Surely the American conservatives aren't restricting people's health care and pushing them off food stamps and kidnapping and uprooting families and sending them to far-off countries. Seems like all those things would breach this commitment to inherent and equal human dignity.
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