Aisha Harris

And that's the issue with pop songs, right?

And pop stardom.

Unless you have all this lore about who this person is.

The brand.

Yeah, that is very true.

But it's hard to come into a movie where you're having a fictional pop star and we don't know really what her brand is beyond Catholic iconography.

And it's kind of... This is giving antebellum lady antebellum when they were...

When they were stitching over their names.

Well, also, I think before we even started taping, one of you said, you know, maybe we should have seen FKA Twigs in this role.

Yeah, Mark said that.

Of Mother Mary.

Yep.

It does kind of make more sense because she is the pop star that I think Mother Mary, the character in this movie, is supposed to kind of be.

But instead, she's kind of

I hate to invoke this name, but like Katy Perry-ish?

Not in like... Shots fired.

Not cringey, but going back to that idea of her as like this sort of relatable.

Anne Hathaway's very... There's something a little bit more down to earth or just like... It's like approachable.

Approachable.

Right.