Al Roth

But the problem there, so I know people who are in this situation, they...

hoarded pills.

They were ready.

They had a plan, but then they couldn't swallow a lot of pills when they were very ill.

So one of the activists for medical aid in dying was a fellow named Jack Kevorkian, who I write about, Dr. Death.

And he arranged to help people when it was illegal everywhere in the United States.

He arranged to help people and eventually went to prison

He was pushing the envelope.

So he developed a machine that would allow people to inject themselves with lethal drugs.

And he would make videos and have the discussions with them to make clear that they were interested and all that.

And he would inform the police because it was against the law and he wanted to challenge the law.

He was tried for murder on multiple occasions.

And as you say, it's only on the last occasion that he was convicted and imprisoned.

And he was on national television.

He was a very public defender of medical aid in dying.

Yes.

And it's been very slow.

So they're really trying to be careful that this isn't help in stopping living, but aid in dying.

Two of our current Supreme Court justices are very, very much against medical aid in dying patients.

Barrett writes – when she was just Amy Coney, not Amy Coney Barrett – she writes about the obligations of Catholic judges.