Al

Have you all seen those memes?

Me and John, we're talking about last episode when I talked about that, the meme of Satan and Jesus arm wrestling.

And we were talking about kind of doing a visual representation of that to start the podcast.

But the problem we run into is one of us has to be Satan to make that work.

And we both don't want to do that.

So we're not going to do it.

I would.

In the intellectual, he would destroy me.

Isn't there a movie about Dungeons & Dragons?

Like I honestly kind of jokingly shared last episode was those kind of images of Jesus and Satan kind of, because you have the temptation of the wilderness and you always kind of have this opposing force with Jesus and with Satan.

And I think it can be easy to kind of equate

you know, obviously not equate Satan's power with Jesus, but more so like Satan is the enemy of God, which is true, but just because he's the enemy of God does not mean that he's, you know, equal in power with God.

But I don't think I've ever heard really anyone articulate Satan would be comparable to Michael.

I've never heard anyone kind of make that correlation.

Michael the angel.

Yeah, what was the point?

Because somewhere in the lecture, Dr. Ward said that, C.S.

Lewis said that he...

And I could be maybe wrong on this, but like that you possibly could experience some sort of pleasures in hell.

Did he say that?