Alan Levinovitz

I think it's also really important for us to understand that the scientific community does not exist in a bubble.

It too is influenced by sociocultural forces.

And that's important to see with something like long COVID.

It's just very difficult to communicate that when we're in a world awash with ultra-processed information.

Yeah, both really important.

So first I want to say, when people say this is religious, I actually, for what...

I want to just bracket something and say, I think that when people say religious and when I say religious in these contexts, what I really mean is deeply held metaphysical beliefs, deeply held metaphysical beliefs, the glue that keeps our worldview together.

So that doesn't have to be religious in a traditional sense.

Free will in this sense is a kind of supernatural entity that is religious in the way I'm talking about.

So really when I say religious,

what I'm trying to call people's attention to is that what we see in traditional religions is also present in everyone's lives.

We have invisible metaphysical assumptions that govern how we perceive the world and how we make moral judgments.

So that's the first thing I say.

So now back to the fear and danger thing.

Yes.

Yes.

Good.

Yes.

Quick answer.

That's right.