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Alan Sisto

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

The Tale of Years says that in August of that year, so two months later, all trace of Gollum is lost.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

It is thought that at about this time, being hunted by both the elves and Sauron's servants, he took refuge in Moria.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

But when he had at last discovered the way to the West Gate, he could not get out.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Okay, August.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

August is when he goes into Moria.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

The company doesn't arrive to the West Gate of Moria until nightfall on January 13th, 3019.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

That's some five months after Gollum entered Moria.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

No wonder he's weak and desperate.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

No wonder he hates the yellow face.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

There's no sunglasses in existence that are going to prevent him from burning his retinas.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

It'll take his pupils a whole day to...

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Shrink down.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

That's, that's, that's wild.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Five months.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

And of course he still doesn't get out until they get out.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

So, you know, another week or so.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Now, the footnote here is really interesting, actually.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Tolkien explains, according to the dwarves, this, that is opening the door, needed usually the thrust of two.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Only a very strong dwarf could open them single-handed.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

And Gollum was not a very strong dwarf.