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Alan Sisto

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

But he got away with trailing them without them noticing for quite some time.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

So we shift locations at the end of that passage from Moria to Isengard as we get a third and very different version of the story of the Nazgul's arrival to Saruman's home.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Christopher explaining that the story is much altered in version C. And this later version picks up after they're coming back across the limelight.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

He then helpfully compares the two versions.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

First, he looks at the one that we saw in the first week of this series, Matt.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Christopher does explain in a footnote just the very tiniest of differences between A and B. They're otherwise similar.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

In A, Saruman denied knowledge of where the ring was hid, while in B, he said he didn't know anything about the land that they sought.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Christopher says this is probably no more than a difference of wording.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

And that's where the big difference is, because now we look at C, which actually has the writer showing up while Gandalf is still there as a prisoner atop Orthanc.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

And that changes things for the White Wizard.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

It's a nice day for a White Wizard.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Actually, it's a pretty crappy day for a White Wizard.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

He is in serious trouble, right?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

He decides to ask for Gandalf's help.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

And maybe remain on the good side.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

I mean, clearly he doesn't want to because he's like, well, if that doesn't work, I'll just turn him over.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

But I mean, so he's not really going to stay on the good side, but he wants to at least pretend that he's there.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Help me and I'll be good forever.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

Basically, he's more afraid of Sauron than he is of Gandalf.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
411 – Saruman Won’t Back Down

That's the way I read this.