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Alan Sisto

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

But yeah, it doesn't sound like it would have had too much of an impact on his ability to march.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Speaking of the march, let's look at the two choices that he had to make, right?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Before he left, which route do I take?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

The shorter trip of 900 miles, which is mostly off-road, or the 1,500-mile trip that would have been on the roads, which of course he would have taken that path had he had horses, had he had cavalry.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Mm-hmm.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

He chooses to take that off-road because he had no horses fit for riding, which is what led Don and I to talk about how the Numenoreans, and therefore the early Gondorians as well, were not exactly known for their cavalry.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Yes, they loved horses.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

They could apparently summon them at need via their thoughts, which is pretty cool, but they didn't use them in war, at least not very much.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

We do read, "...only by couriers and by bodies of light-armed archers, often not of Numenorean race."

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

So there are a few things to unpack here.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

We talked about the distance that this group, which we had originally thought of as just about the 200 soldiers plus the Sildur and his sons, but it makes sense that there are some noncombatants involved as well.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

The distance they could cover each day.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Given that distance and the fact that they were leaving in early September,

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

Was the other route even a possibility for a non-mounted force, given the timeframe?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

And then moving on after that, speaking of not being mounted, why would the Numenoreans not have been an army that uses cavalry?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

And I think the answer is obvious, but I want to hear you talk about that because that should be entertaining.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

And then finally-

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

I was really fascinated by this use of light-armed mounted archers, essentially skirmishers.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

But the fact that they were often auxiliary forces is even more interesting.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
415 – Saruman’s OPSEC Problem: Unfinished Tales with Dr. Bret Devereaux

So I want to talk about all three of those things.