Alan Smith

I kind of look at him, I kind of glaze over and start looking in the sky and I said, just think about what you're saying and compare the two.

If you go game by game, you go the importance of each game, blah, blah, blah.

It's not even in the same ballpark.

The commentator's enthusiasm, Martin Tyler, et cetera, is fantastic and he gets into it quite rightly so.

And I was jumping around myself, but...

That moment at Anfield will never happen again in as long as we're on this planet.

I'm telling you now.

And that's what makes it so special.

And just flipping back to what the boys were saying about making the documentary, the brilliant thing about making it was that I had my own memories of what happened on that night.

um and we never you know we hadn't sat around the table and all chatted about it over the years we might bump into each other and sort of mention it now and again when 20 years or whatever but it's the first time we and I try to be on all the interviews I wasn't there on every one but I was kind of exec producer whatever that means and it was a point of sitting down and I was I had my version of a story and then we'd ask Alan Smith or we'd ask Merce and say what do you think about this what do you think about Hillsborough what do you think about all the subjects we covered and

And it was completely different.

Not completely, but slightly different to my memories of it.

So I had a black and white view of it 30 years ago.

And then all of a sudden, the lads started colouring it in for me.

It was like a painting being coloured in.

And by the end of it, we have this amazing...

documentary film that encapsulates all those memories and fills in all the gaps for me because there's loads of little things that happened on the night that I'd forgotten about or I'd missed and I missed John Aldrich trying to see, everyone goes on about John Barnes should have gone in the corner and kept the ball and the game was over if you watch John Aldrich and I've spoke to him about this, when John Lukic picks his arm up to throw the ball to me which I didn't want

And he wanted to give it to me.

John Aldrich puts his hands up to stop the ball and catch it and take a free kick and a booking and end the game.

And for some reason, he pulls his hand down at the last moment and lets him throw it to me.