Alan Wyley

Hi, David, and thanks for having us on this morning.

Yeah, I mean, the numbers are huge in Ireland, David, and we just use the air grid and SEAI numbers.

So last year, it was about 520 million euros.

In the last week, which is unusually high, it was about 32 million euros just in one week.

But in the last year, David, since the government actually

committed in the programme for government to use the surplus renewable energy to help those in energy poverty.

In the last year, it's been about a million and a half euros a day.

So it's very significant.

I'd imagine so.

I mean, we would have made the point to the minister and various different politicians that there's a lot of people suffering needlessly because, as Aoife said, if we can do targeted interventions to the people who are most in need, we could use this waste and we could reduce their energy bills.

And we find it kind of striking, David, that

In the last week, with all the fuel protests and all the extra measures being put in place, nobody has been talking about using the available waste to help as part of the solution to this problem.

That's a great question.

You can, you know, reasonably short term.

So we would always know in the afternoon that there's going to be waste tonight.

And then we, because in Energy Cloud, we provide free hot water and free heating to people when there's waste in the system.

So we're able to send them a text and an email in the afternoon saying, you know, there's going to be waste tonight.

You're going to get free hot water.

We're going to heat your home for free.

So, you know, don't be turning on your immersion or whatever in the meantime.