Alastair Campbell

And you kind of go, well, I've got myself elected, thumbs up, job done.

That's where things fall over.

And we're seeing this now with reform, where they have taken control of councils.

It's been an absolute car crash.

Because Nigel Farage, I think his big motivation is to be able to say to people...

you wrote me off and you were wrong.

That's all he wants.

And I have no doubt that if, and I don't think it's going to happen, but if he ever walked through the door of number 10, he would regard the job done as he crossed the threshold rather than saying, this is the start of the job.

And I think that'd be catastrophic.

I read about that in your book.

I think we could have gone into more detail.

I think I could have had more pages.

And Danny, you mentioned Danny Kruger.

Danny wrote something.

I can't remember exactly where it was.

And he wrote something which I thought was a throwaway line

for a little bit of rhetorical flourish which was about conservatives that that done things wrong when they're in government can get absolution from Nigel Farage as long as they were willing to basically you know prostrate themselves and I thought it was a funny line and Danny can be he can be very good with words he can and I thought it was a bit of a funny line I now watch

Nadeem Sahawi lie knowingly on television.

I watched Robert Jenrick lie on television.

I watched people that I liked and respected