Albert Breer
Appearances
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The Knicks Stay Alive With Rob Mahoney and Joe House, Plus NFL Offseason Intrigue Rankings With Albert Breer
Who's left? That's kind of it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The Knicks Stay Alive With Rob Mahoney and Joe House, Plus NFL Offseason Intrigue Rankings With Albert Breer
Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The Knicks Stay Alive With Rob Mahoney and Joe House, Plus NFL Offseason Intrigue Rankings With Albert Breer
When we saw that I was saved
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And now you can't tag him anymore logistically because of the way that the rules set up. And so he just has to play his contracts out, and then he makes it to the market, which starting quarterbacks never make it to the market. So, like, he – you know, obviously, you know, he did a good job of – you know, of taking a calculated gamble and his cash in on it.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And even like this situation, like I, I don't know, like the idea that like he could go now sort of pick his team, you know what I mean? If they cut him and say, okay, like that's sunk cost one year, 90 million, we need to, you know, be all the way behind Michael Penix. You know, then he's going to go to the market and like,
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
He's got an edge on every other quarterback out there because money is no object because the Falcons are paying for it. You know what I mean? So he would go out there and be able to pick whatever the best football situation is for him. It's a good example, I think, for other players how to use your leverage. It's also like...
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
I mean, it's not realistic for some guys in other positions to do it that way. I mean, give Saquon credit. Saquon played through a franchise tag, and that's how he makes it to the market. It's a tough thing to actually look at life-changing money on the table and pass it up and say, I'll wait a year or two until they actually let me go to the market.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And it's paid off for him his entire career now.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Here's the crazy thing. So if you go back... I'm looking at it again right now. Those franchise tags are fully guaranteed, right? So his first franchise tag was 2016. So for the last nine seasons, every dollar he's made has been fully guaranteed before the season.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah. So I think Pittsburgh, I think they, I think my guess is the Russell thing is over. There was, he was, where's, where's he go? And I don't know. I mean, that's the thing is like, I, I could see the Raiders signing Sam Donald again. It's like sort of their Alex Smith in Kansas city. And I think he's a good fit for chips offense and everything else.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Um, you know, if, if that doesn't happen, could Russell wind up with Pete for a year or two, maybe, um, I just don't think you're not going to bring Russell Wilson in and have him in a situation where he's a backup. You know what I mean? Like, so it has to be like a team that's willing to give him a starting job. And I don't know that team's out there, you know?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And I also, I mean, things were not perfect between him and other people in the Steelers building over the course of the year. No way. That shocks me. But then you see it at the end. The crazy thing is, though, Ryan, you see the Jerry Dulac story that came out during Super Bowl week? It was the stuff that Russell's camp was upset about. That stuff was getting out there.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
I'm like, what are you doing? Everyone thinks... This is like, everyone thinks that you're like this operator behind the scenes and now you're doing it again. Other teams are going to look at this and like, say like, no, I'm not signing up for that. I don't want to be the next team that happens to, you know what I mean? So like, I, I think he's probably gone.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And then I would say they want to keep working with Justin Fields. They really like Justin Fields. He is a really good fit for Mike Tomlin's program. I don't think they're going to be willing to just hand him the starting job. And maybe he would have to come as a backup if they get a higher-end guy.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
But I think Fields made a good enough impression there where I would term it as they want to keep working with him. And, you know, I think they've got bigger swings. You know, like, do they take a swing at Rodgers? They've already, you know, kind of kicked tires on Stafford recently.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
You know, I think they're going to look at the higher-end options, but I certainly could see Fields being part of the equation in some form or fashion if he can't find a starting job somewhere else.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah, so I'd say a couple things. Number one, the more people I talk to, the more So I think Abdul Carter is sort of considered the best prospect in the draft. And it's not that he's a better football player than Travis Hunter. It's just easier to translate him to the pros. You know what he's going to be.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And part of that is, as you and I talked about a little earlier, the Micah thing, that there's a blueprint for it. So I think... The momentum right now, I would say, is Abdul Carter as a very real shot, may even be the leader in the clubhouse to go first overall. After that, the one thing that's sort of kind of
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
I would say this consensus has sort of started to form that when you're talking about upside, and DJ used the term chasing ceiling. If you're an AFC team, you have to chase ceiling. If you're having to climb up that mountain that Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are on, Like, you need to find somebody who's got a high enough ceiling to get to those guys.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And Cam Ward, I think, is the one quarterback in this year's class who has it. And so, like, I think that's what separates him from the group. The Shador thing is interesting. I... I think that there's a really strong consensus that Shador is kind of ordinary physically. He's smart. He's tough. He's rugged. You know, he's got a chance to play in the league for a long time.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
But the more people I talk to, the more I hear... He's limited physically. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't have a great arm. And so I think that that's the that's the battle that Shador is going to have to fight with teams over the next two months is showing him that he that he's a little better physically than they think.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And, you know, part of it, too, like, you know, Ryan, I know how much college you watch, like he's running for his life a lot of Colorado. Right. Is he going to be able to get away from people the same way in the pros? I know a lot of people don't think he's going to be able to get away from people the same way he did in college.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
I mean, it's actually true because it's like, if you think a guy's going to be your long-term starter, uh, you're spending a first round pick on him. If he's not, you're probably not spending a two or even a three on him, you know?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Okay. I thought it was your 20th draft. Yeah, the 20th draft I've covered. Yep. Yeah. All right.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Right, right, right. Which is like the whole, like, did you have, like, how often, how often did you have to go to number three in your progression? Right? Like, how often? One wins every time, so it doesn't matter. And it's clean. Right, right. I mean, that was the Justin Fields thing. It's like Justin Fields, it was like... everybody's felt like he's smart enough to do it, right?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
He's a really smart kid and the testing showed he's a fast processor, but he never really had to do it at Ohio State because he had Chris Olave and Jamison Williams and Jackson Smith and Jigba and and Garrett Wilson. And so, I mean, it's, you know, Mac, Mac Jones, same thing. It's like, how often did you have to go deep into your reads? How often did you really have to move in the pocket? Yeah.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
So like, I think she doers like, you know, like, like you said, like sort of the reverse of that, where he had to be the best player on the field pretty consistently. You know, I think that's like Drake may last year, like Drake may for that North Carolina team. Yeah. He'd tell you now, like his third year at North Carolina, redshirt sophomore, he learned a lot because he had to carry the team.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And that's experience that's applicable to what you have to do sometimes in the NFL. So yeah, I think that definitely applies. I also would say this about the quarterbacks, Ryan. I think for some teams, the gap between Cam and Shador – might be similar to the gap between Shador and Jackson Dart. Like, I think Jackson Dart might be a little closer for some teams to Shador than people realize.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
So that would make him a first-rounder, Jackson. Or those teams view Shador as a second-rounder, and Jackson's right there with him.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Once you get past Carter and Hunter, it almost immediately becomes a need-based draft, which is really rare that it happened that high. You know what I mean? So that's kind of the message.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah, yeah. It's like, so there might be teams that look at it and say, we have a similar grade on Mason Graham, Will Campbell, Ashton Gentry. Um, you know, Jalen Walker. So like, let's just take what we perceive as the most important position or our biggest need.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Um, like, I think like once you get past the, the, the two at the top and I, DJ, DJ thinks Gentee is right there with those two, by the way, which I thought was interesting as the first person I've heard say that, um, but with Hunter and Abdul, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, he's a running back. So I can like, how high do you take them? You know, but yeah,
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
I mean, coming out of a year where Barkley, Jacobs, and Henry sort of changed the dynamic of the position for three of the best teams in the league, maybe you do look at Ashton Gentry a little differently than you would have a year or two ago. Anyway, so I think that the consensus would be Carter and Hunter up here. And then after that, you've got a clump of players and need could wind up.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
dictating who goes four, five, six, seven, which again is like, I think, an earlier point of the draft than it usually happens.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
It is a really good draft class of the position, though, because you have Hampton, who I don't think is that far off from Jenty. And then you have the two Ohio State guys, Judkins and Henderson. And I think Henderson is really going to be helped. This is one thing a bunch of teams have told me. Jameer Gibbs' success in Detroit is really going to help Travion Henderson.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
because that's going to be the vision for him. But Judkins is a good player. Caleb Johnson from Iowa. And then you have good backs after that, too.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah, Hampton. I'm saying Hampton's right out. Omari and Hampton right after Jenty. And then probably after those two, you got the two Ohio State guys in Iowa. I'm sorry.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
We're going to have a 30 for 30 on the running back Zoom call in 10 years.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And I think you just have to, with him, wrap your head around the frame. He's not a traditional edge rusher. Where Mike Cal Williams, the other Georgia guy, looks like he came out of a defensive end lab. You know what I mean? Sure. Jalen Walker's more like the Micah Parsons build, which I know, again, and just to explain to people, I think Micah Parsons almost...
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
generated a new genre of player where you're seeing Abdul Carter was used that way at Penn state, like Micah was. And then, you know, you're seeing it with guys at other schools and Jalen Walker is a good example of somebody you can, you know, move on, have on the line, have off the line and like where maybe the league didn't know what to do with a guy like that.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
When, when Parsons came out, because it was such a unique way to use a player that can be that good in both, both off the ball and on the end of the line. Um, Now there's that blueprint out there. And so it's actually like, I think for Carter and Walker, it's now a positive. It's not like, okay, what are we going to do with this guy? It's actually seen as a plus for them.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
No. He loves Southern California. I think the relationship with Sean is still on solid ground. This is about the contract, and I think a dispute over his value. They negotiated for six months last year, and I think the thing... They did a good job of keeping a lid on it, but it was a tough negotiation that came down to the wire, and is he going to report to camp or not?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Really, if you look at structurally what they did, it... It's a $5 million raise for 2024. However, that money was borrowed from 25 and 26. So $4 million from 25, a million dollars from 26. And anytime a player does that, it's sort of with the understanding on both sides, he's not going to play for the lower number because if he plays for the lower number, that means he got no raise at all.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
So like, I think everybody knew they were going to have to revisit it. And, you know, like I, It doesn't seem logical that the Rams would move on from Stafford based on what he is, who he's been, his relationship with McVay, his fit there, how much he loves it there.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
They were in the red zone to beat the Eagles, came as close to beating the Eagles in the playoffs and did it in a snowstorm as anybody. But there's that issue of the contract. And I mean, Ryan, the crazy thing is, this whole thing about him not having permission to speak with other teams, he had that permission for almost three weeks now.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And so the fact that he's been able to go out and ascertain his value, and it's sort of cemented his belief that he belongs in that group of nine quarterbacks that are making $50 million a year or more. Um, and they still haven't been able to, you know, find a middle ground here, I think is at least a red flag and a sign that things could, that, that, that, that he could wind up being traded.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
So I think it was a critical week, critical few days that they're, um, that they're heading into here at the combine. The Rams people aren't here. Um, but yeah, They're going to negotiate with Jimmy Sexton over the next few days. It's a very unpredictable situation right now, again, because he does like it there. He does want to play there. But the timelines of the two sides don't really match up.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
You've got a win-now player with a team that's now looking at things and saying, we've got a chance to be good for a few years, and maybe we don't want to go year-to-year with our quarterback at that rate anymore.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
I mean, it tells you when you take a break with a girl, right? Like, it's like, what do you think is going to happen? You know what I mean? Like, let's go see other people. Like, how do you think that's going to turn out?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah. And now what do you do?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
That sort of... Like, OK, go like, let's see what you're worth. And then you come back and it's like, oh, you are worth like something in the neighborhood of what you were asking for. And I do think that that makes it a little bit more difficult. And, you know, I again, like it's like the timelines of the sides, like it's like, OK, well, if we're going to pay you 50.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Oh, right. That's right. The rabies.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
are you willing to say you're going to play for the next two years or the next three years? So we're pouring that money into something that's going to be here for a few years. If a team is willing to go to 50, what are they willing to attach draft pick wise? Because a lot of times that can be a sliding scale too, you know?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Like if you're willing to pay 50, well, maybe you're less willing to give up the higher draft pick compensation. So there's like a lot of moving pieces here and it's complex. And, you know, I think really sort of boils down to, again, like,
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
stafford getting what he thinks he's worth and um i mean look like what he the deal he signed um if we're just talking about the apy um you know the deal he signed three years ago is now 50 behind the market you know he's at 40 and dac is at 60. so um you can certainly see why he would want a market correction what do you think's the most aggressive I like the Giants in this one.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
I think the Giants are closer than people think. And I say that as somebody who's got PTSD from having marked them as my surprise team last year. And that didn't work out real well for me. But I think if you look at it on paper, you say, OK. Andrew Thomas coming back at left tackle will make the offensive line completely different.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
You've got real players in your defensive front, Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, and Kayvon Thibodeau. You've got a number one receiver in Malik Nabors, and maybe Cooper Cupp comes with Matthew Stafford. You know, Tracy looks like he's a good young back. And then you have the number three pick, which, I don't know, is that Travis Hunter? You know, like, so...
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
You can sort of look at it and say, okay, they could get to a competitive level fast. Dayball puts a lot on his quarterback, likes to put a lot on his quarterback mentally. Stafford clearly can handle that. And there are jobs on the line. You know what I mean? It's go time for Joe Shane and Brian Dayball. I think the one if here is...
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
If they're not willing to give up this year's first round pick, if it's next year's first round pick, or if it's their two, which I think is 34th overall and something else, are the Rams willing to do that? It's a little complicated, but I think they're the most likely one.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
And then another one that makes sense, we'll see how aggressive they are, is the Steelers, where that's another one where you look at timelines. I'm saying how the Rams timeline may not quite marry up completely with Stafford's. The Steelers have TJ Watt at going to be 31 years old. They've got Micah Fitzpatrick going to be 29 years old. They've got an offensive line that's coming together.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
They've got George Pickens nearing the end of his rookie contract. The Steelers are also sort of in this window where it's like if they're going to get over the top with this core of players, now is sort of the time to do it.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Right. And I think that's the thing. The teams that have been involved here, the Giants pick third, the Raiders pick sixth, the Browns pick second. I don't think those picks are getting traded for Matthew Stafford. That doesn't make sense. That makes it complicated for those teams.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
It's, you have to be a little creative with it. And I, again, like if, and this is like where ownership comes in too, right? Like with Brian Dayball and Joe Shane, like ownership's gonna be looking at it and saying like, well, we can't allow something completely reckless. Because maybe my GM and maybe my head coach are looking to save their jobs, right? So that one, I think, is interesting.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Again, I just think there's a reason for the Steelers and the Giants to work with urgency. The Browns make sense, too. I just don't know with that $92 million guarantee that's left for Deshaun Watson. I don't know how you meet Matthew Stafford's financial demands while still having like that anchor, you know, on your books.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
Yeah, and I think Aaron might be willing to go there for a little less. And so then if you're the Rams, the equation becomes, okay, so we have Matthew Stafford, who's year to year. We're replacing him with another quarterback who's year to year. And are we better off with Stafford at 50? Or what if Rodgers will come here for 20?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
If Rodgers comes here for 20, now we've got the extra $30 million to spend, plus we get the assets that are coming back in a Stafford trade. And that's how you can start to wrap your head around the whole thing. You know what I mean? Now, it doesn't solve the question of who's going to be the quarterback beyond this year.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
But if Stafford isn't going to agree to do that for you, well, you're in that position either way, you know? So Rodgers is an interesting answer. I think Sean McVay likes Jimmy Garoppolo more than people realize. And could he go in and win with Garoppolo as sort of, I use this example with Sam Darnold and potentially going to the Raiders. Could he be like Alex Smith in Kansas City?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Stafford, Rodgers, and Cousins Futures and Pre–NFL Combine Buzz With Albert Breer. Plus, Whether Teams Fear OKC and More With Anthony Slater.
You know what I mean? Where Alex Smith was a really, really high-end bridge with a great offensive coach that got them to the playoffs four times in five years and bought them time to find Patrick Mahomes. I think some of these quarterbacks that we're talking about, that's the upside with them. Sean's got, obviously, supreme confidence in his ability to coach a quarterback up.
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And I do know that he thinks Jimmy's got something left in the tank and can be a starter in the league.
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This is complicated, of course, by, again, the guaranteed money left. He has $27.5 million fully guaranteed. He's getting that money one way or the other. If he is on the roster through the beginning of the league year, $10 million for next year, for 2026, becomes fully guaranteed.
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The Falcons are looking at this and saying, okay, so you have either we're one year at a $90 million number minus the offset, which he would do what Russell Wilson does, go get the minimum somewhere. So one year at $90 million, or do we keep him as our backup? And then we're talking about a two-year $100 million commitment. And how does that affect your young quarterback?
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Ultimately, I think they're going to spend the next few weeks trying to find creative ways to trade him. In the end, I don't know that you can keep Kirk Cousins on your roster. And I think Kirk at some point will probably make his feelings known on that. And then I think Kirk becomes, if he is cut, he can become the solution to the Deshaun Watson problem in Cleveland.
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Because if you're getting him for the minimum, he's got the relationship with Kevin Stefanski from having worked together with him and Kevin having been his play caller with the Vikings. You know, like that is a way to work around the Deshaun Watson situation where it's like we've got all this money. We still owe Deshaun Watson. But Kirk Cousins comes in here on the minimum.
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We probably draft one somewhere in the first couple of rounds behind him. And now we feel a lot better about our quarterback situation. And maybe we can go to Miles Garrett with that and say, look, like we've fixed this to the greatest degree we possibly can.
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You have to give Kirk credit though, because he had the balls to play on two consecutive franchise tags. And that's the difference, is most guys will see the big second contract, even if it's a little below market value, and say, I got to take the bird in the hand. There are very few guys that will actually play out franchise tags the way that he did, and that's how he got to free agency.
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Yeah, I would say like I try to look at these things like these things on timelines to some degree. And I do think if you look at Cleveland, it makes sense because they've got some aging players. And I think they're just now starting to feel the effects of like all the lost draft capital and the Deshaun Watson trade where like Cleveland, You know, their offensive line's gotten older.
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They haven't really been able to replace some guys up there. They haven't really been able to fully go in on, you know, fixing the miss on Jedrick Wills. Now we'll see what happens with DeJuan Jones over there who showed some promise at left tackle. And so, like, I think this is like a soft reset for the Browns where it's like, OK.
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you know we can kind of focus on rebuilding the guts of our roster as some of the guys that we went to the playoffs a couple times with age out which i think is smart now you're giving up a generational prospect that word gets thrown out a lot like obviously we haven't seen a guy like this so um it is there is risk involved in walking away from that prospect
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And then like for the Jags, what's interesting about it is this is generally and look like I think the Rams background of both Gladstone and Cohen plays into it because there is that, you know, willingness to treat draft picks as being expendable. But the Rams did it when they felt like they were close and the Rams did it for veteran players in this case.
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Is this telling us the Jaguars think they're closer than maybe the general public would believe and that they're in this go-for-it spot where they can give up capital and they don't have to worry about filling multiple spots over the next couple of drafts? That, to me, is the intriguing part because the timeline thing, that makes sense for Cleveland.
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With Jacksonville, at least on the surface, it makes less sense, but maybe their evaluation, the new guys, their evaluation of the roster is a little different. And then as far as the price goes, Ryan,
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I'm not surprised it was high because a lot of teams looked at this and I think this was what it was, what was going to make it difficult for the, either the Browns or the giants to trade down from two and three is that, I mean, when you're talking about the fourth, fifth, fifth pick, the sixth pick, a lot of teams looked at those this year and said, that's like having the 15th pick last year or the 20th pick last year.
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And so it's, I think the way you have to look at that from a Browns perspective or a Giants perspective is you got to give me a lot because that's not like going down three picks. Like to me, prospect wise, that might feel a little bit more like going down 10 to 15 picks. Yeah.
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It feels like corporate buzzwords.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I like, I, I just think, and look like I'm on, you know, some text groups with some NFL people who pointed out the word choices too. I will, I will say that. Yeah. I think like part of it is, You know, one thing the Rams have done really well is is sort of like the ability to see around corners and like, OK, like here's something that nobody else is doing that we're going to try.
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And we're not afraid to try this new thing. And at one point it was something very visible when they were giving up, you know, high end draft picks at a time when like, you know, most teams were very protective of their first round picks. Right. And like so. you know, they, they took early swings when Sean McVay first got there for guys like Sammy Watkins and Ronald Darby.
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And then it like moved to another level where all of a sudden now they're, they're taking big shots. You know, they take the big shot on Jalen Ramsey. They take the big shot on Brandon cooks. They take the big shot on Matthew Stafford and they didn't have a first round pick. What was it for like nine years? Right. Um,
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So like, I think that's what he's saying is like, I think he's saying like, I'm willing because of my own experience to do things that other people wouldn't do and take shots that other people wouldn't take. Does that mean it's all going to work out? No.
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Like, but, you know, I think that that probably is what he means with the word unique is that, you know, because of his own experience and seeing people taking that kind of shot, those types of shots in the place he used to work, like he's not going to be afraid to take those sorts of shots in Jacksonville.
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And I think that's maybe where he's equating what he's doing here to, you know, the decade plus he had with the Rams. Okay. Moving on.
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Mildly. Um, The more I talk to people, the more it was... They're just a little different from one another. And it depends on what you're looking for. One's, what, three years older than the other one, right? So Warren's three years older than Loveland. And... Like, if you watch him, and this is something, like, I mean, even you and I who aren't scouts can see it.
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Like, there's, like, this force of nature. And this is where the Gronkowski comparison comes in, I think. Like, this force of nature element to Tyler Warren's game where it's just the way he runs. You know what? Like, it just looks like he is, like, this, like, just ball of butcher knives going down the field. And...
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You know, so I think that like with Tyler Warren, what consistently came up is you're going to have to have a plan, right? Like you're going to have to have like ways to move them around. If you're going to get the most out of them, maybe, you know, do some of the quarterback run game stuff that Penn State did with them.
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Like if you want to get the very most out of them, you're going to have to be creative and willing to do all of that where Colston Loveland is more like a route runner, like almost like a receiver hybrid. He's, he has effort as a blocker. He's not like a, like that big, you know, the way Warren is.
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So where there's effort, maybe, you know, like there's, you're going to have like a little bit of, you know, where you're gonna have to manage him in the run game a little bit. And so he's like more of like a, Yeah, like I could see that Travis Kelsey type of game with him where he can be a tactician and a technician and a really effective receiver right out of the box.
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And maybe he gains weight and becomes better in the run game as a blocker down the line. Whereas with Warren, it's just... contested catch like, and you know, creativity and like open field tough to bring down all of that stuff. So they're just pretty different, you know?
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And I think like, I mean, Shane Steichen being the guy who gets Tyler Warren is actually pretty interesting because of all the stuff that Steichen has done, not just in Indianapolis, but also like you look at the stuff they used to do in Philly, like that was all him too, you know? And so I think it's interesting from that standpoint, just in the way they're going to use them.
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The price was so high to go get Pierce. Now, like my understanding is they were ready to take Pierce at 15. And then Jalen Walker, who no one I think expected to be there at 15 was there. And so like, you know, I think they kind of got put in this. All right, we like both players, and Walker is so clean character-wise. Like, the stories I've heard about Jalen Walker are unbelievable.
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Like, I had one team tell me, you know how they ask that question of players, like, which teammate would you bring with you to the pros, right? Like... Every single Georgia player this team talked to said Jalen Walker, every single one of them. Offense, defense didn't matter. And, you know, you hear he's like a defensive coordinator in the meetings.
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Meanwhile, James Pierce has a bunch of character questions. So. 15 overall, you're looking at it, okay, let's take... If we're going to break the tie here, we'll go with the guy with the very clean character versus the guy with questions. And then Pierce keeps dropping and keeps falling. And now it's like, if you have two guys that you viewed as top 10 guys in the class that are both...
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need players for you and you can turn what's been like a weakness for them for years now. And they tried to fix it with Matthew Jude on last summer and they signed Leonard Floyd. And you've got two guys that are going to help maybe turn a weakness into a strength. Like instantly I can see where you would do that.
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And I like both players for Atlanta and Raheem Morris should be able to get the most out of both players. Um, The price was just a lot, you know, to give up a first round pick next year, plus the second rounder you have. Like if you're the Rams, you're doing jumping jacks, right? Like they moved to pick down 20 spots and they got a first rounder out of it.
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Like that's unbelievable value for the Rams. So I like the concept of what the Falcons did. The price is a little much.
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One other thing that's interesting about this is see how expensive those guys are now too. If these guys hit their potential, you could be talking about having two guys who within a couple of years could be playing at a $40 or $50 million level at on a rookie on rookie contracts. Pretty valuable.
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You're saying a move that other teams liked? Yeah, we'll do one. We'll do a positive one. We'll do a negative one. So I think... if you, if you look at just kind of like a, a guy that, and this is in a, in a, in a non-sexy draft, this is a non-sexy thing to do. Right. But Gray's able 18 to Seattle was one of those things where it's like, everyone loved him.
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And it was like, Graham Barton was this guy last year, right. Can play four different positions. That was a crying need for Seattle. They got Clint Kubiak coming in. They need athletic, versatile linemen. Um, and, uh, I just think as far as like, you know, again, like what it costs for a great guard in the NFL.
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Like this is a guy who, you know, was viewed by, like this is a future team captain for you, you know? So, you know, I think just as far as like where other teams would say, yeah, they got that one right. That's one. The other one I would point out, and this is actually interesting, it's like the damn it, the Ravens did it again thing. You know what I mean?
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Like Malachi Starks, now I mocked him to the Ravens because, you know, Almost every single person I talked to said Malachi Starks is a Raven. Put him down for them. And the Georgia guys were great in their meetings this year. I mean, Jalen Walker, Mikkel Williams, Starks, the two offensive linemen were all awesome in their meetings this year. And it was like everyone I talked to is like, yep.
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Malachi Starks, like we met with him, that guy's a Baltimore Raven. And sure enough, like the Ravens sit there, they don't do anything. And Malachi Starks falls right into their lap. Perfect compliment for Kyle Hamilton. Um, I mean, they've got a chance now to be really good at safety for a long, long time to come with those two.
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So I think Starks is the one you look at and say, I believe he started as a true freshman at Georgia, right? Like just a kid who's really smart and versatile and everything else was ready to go right out of the box in college. Most people expect him to be the same way in the pros.
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Head scratchers. Yeah. Um, Ted McMillan at eight to care up to Carolina. I, I think there was some disagreement on him. Now he had a wide range. Like I think Jacksonville would have considered it at five. If they had stuck there, they probably would have taken gentee, but would have consider it considered it. Um, You know, and I think San Francisco was in on him, too. Like, really liked McMillan.
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I don't know if they would have taken him at 11 over Mikael Williams, but I know they liked him. So, like, that was one where it was like, man, like, that was... really rich. And, you know, yes, you're investing in your young quarterback, but you have so many, they were really bad on defense last year. Right.
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So passing on a Jalen Walker, a Walter Nolan, like the guys, a McHale Williams guys that could have been difference makers on the defensive side of the ball. I, that got a lot of people's attention. Um, I'd say the other one was just the price. I hate to double back on it, but just the price that Atlanta paid to go up and get James Pierce.
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Not that you don't like the talent with James Pierce, but that was an interesting one. And I think there were so many... questions with so many of these guys this year at the medical, you know what I mean? Like you had Jihad Campbell, like Howie Roseman takes him at the end of the round. Some teams had him off their board, you know, two shoulders, two knees. It's an issue.
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You know, Will Johnson's another one. He falls through the first round because he's got, you know, a knee that's going to create longevity concerns. It's just an interesting draft that way. I don't think there were a lot of picks where you just say like, yeah, that's really clean.
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That's why I gave you Zabel and Starks as the ones that were, because I think teams looked at that and say that fits 100% what they're trying to accomplish.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I think like there's going to be some. I mean, I don't think Lane's offense anymore is as simple as people make it out to be, based on the research that I've done. So, like, I don't know that it's as steep a learning curve as some people think, but I think there is a learning curve there. So I think Jackson will... would benefit from sitting.
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I think the question is, like, where are his reps going to come from? You know, like one of the things like New England did right last year, for example, they bring in Jacoby Reset, who already knew Alex Van Pelt's offense.
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So that allowed them to just, you know, have Drake May learn through a fire hose, like just keep giving him stuff and keep giving him reps in practice because Jacoby didn't need him as much. In this circumstance, you've got two quarterbacks, Like, not only do they both view themselves as starters, but they also have incentives in their contract.
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How much money those guys are going to make in 2025 is going to be based on how much they play. And you just sort of wonder about where the dynamics are going to be there and how Brian Dayball is going to manage all of that. And I think that's a fair question to ask. Now, can you imagine if it was Shador in that room with Russell Wilson? And... And Jameis Winston, it's not to that level.
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I think Jackson Dart will come in, and I think he'll be a good soldier and do the right thing. That's everything I know, everything I've learned about him. It seems like he is that way, so I think that part will be fine. But yeah, my question would be, you've got two guys who more or less have their careers as starting quarterbacks on the line.
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Are you going to take practice reps away from them and give them to Dart? How do you manage that? I think that's a little bit of a challenge for the Giants for sure.
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Yeah. Well, I... I've been saying for a while that I and I like the best way I could describe it is like I think he's like Bo Nix last year in that not not not stylistically, but like in that Bo Nix, there's a good chance he falls out of the first round if there's not a fit for him.
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Now, I think there were two teams last year that would have considered taking him in the first round was the Broncos, who did take him at 12. And the other is the Saints. I'm not sure one way or the other, but I think it would have been consideration for them at 14. If not, I think he falls out of the first round.
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So the reason for that is because Bo Nix doesn't have like the overwhelming physical characteristics that you normally see that high in the draft. And if you're in a team and say the AFC and you're looking at it, you're like, OK, like what's going to put us in position where we're going to be able to beat some combination of Joe Burrow,
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Trevor or Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, C.J. Stroud, Drake May. Maybe you put Trevor Lawrence in there like I'm gonna have to be like potentially three of those teams in succession. Is this guy going to be good enough to get me there? And without the physical characteristics, it's harder to envision that. So you need to have fit work for you.
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Bo Nix found a place where fit works for him.
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and he was a rookie of the year candidate the rest of it doesn't matter and i i just don't know that shadur found that fit i i would tell you this flat out 100 like i had a really hard time finding anyone coach scout anyone who thought he was a first round talent now there were some people who liked him for different reasons but talent wise he wasn't a first rounder and i think
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The fact that he kept getting pushed into this top five, top 10 category, to me, did the kid a disservice. Because I think in some people's minds, it almost became a lock that he was going to be a first round pick. And so I think he started handling his pre-draft process like he was a locked top 10 pick. And it's like, well, I don't want to go there. I don't want to go there.
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I mean, Ryan, there are five guys every year, maybe eight, 10 guys every year that can conduct their process that way legitimately. Like Abdul Carter only took four visits. Well, that's because he's Abdul Carter, right? Like, so he doesn't need to visit the team that has the seventh pick or the eighth pick or the ninth pick. He's that good a prospect. Shadur was conducting himself that way.
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Even though he wasn't that type of prospect, he was like the other 230 some odd players in the draft that have to go in with an open mind and have to impress every team because a lot of different scenarios are on the table. And so like, I think that made it even harder to find his fit. Right. Because he's just predetermined in some cases. Well, I don't think that's the right place.
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I don't think that's the right place. I mean, I know one team where when they were watching tape and they questioned him on a couple of things, they asked him what he thought. And, you know, the answer was, well, maybe this place isn't the fit for me. Like what? You know what I mean? Like, it's just you're you're in a job interview. And so I think like these narratives that.
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he was going to be a top five or top 10 pick automatic, did the kid a disservice. I don't think he was ever viewed as a first-round talent by the majority of the league.
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And unfortunately, because this narrative built in the fall that he was a first-rounder, and then you get into the spring and he's got that in his head that he is one, even though people like me are saying, I can't find people that are talking that way about him. I think wound up really hurting him.
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And I know, you know, our mutual friend McShay, like I know that was one reason why he used to hate doing the mock drafts in May for the year ahead. Right. Like it's because it would actually do damage to kids. Kids would get the wrong idea sometimes about about who they were because all the work hadn't been done yet. And that was a long-winded answer. I apologize for that.
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I cringed when I saw the Tom Pellicero quote, the quote that he got getting circulated the way it did, because I do that same story. He does the same story that I do every year, which is diving into the quarterbacks and talking to coaches and talking to people who know what they're talking about, like about these guys.
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And the only way that you're going to get these guys to tell you the truth, you know this, Ryan, is like you have to give them an amenity you know that they have to be able to go to to be real about it like that's the only way they can can can discuss these things and do you want the truth is my question you know what i mean like do you want the truth because these guys
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like I would hope people could trust me having covered the league for 20 years, that I'm not getting the wool pulled over my eyes, that I'm going to people that I can trust, that I'm going to people that have given me the truth over the years that I'm going to people that where I see like, okay, they said positive things about these four kids, but he wasn't as hot on this kid.
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And then it matches up with what another guy said. And then it matches up with what another guy said. Like, I don't, I don't take that lightly. Like that's a really, like that's someone's future that I'm dealing with. So the truth is the most important thing. I want to be fair. And so like, I'm not going to print something like this. And I think Tom's the same way.
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Like I'm not going to print something like that unless I have it. Like it's corroborated by other people saying it. And it's from a person that I really trust who's always told me the truth. I mean, there's stuff I leave out of mine. to be fair to people, you know? But if you want the truth, that's usually what's in these stories.
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And in a lot of cases, I remember Nolan or Rocky used to get killed for this stuff. If you go back and you look like 99% of it's true, you know, I can remember
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Do you want to watch the draft and see a guy fall three rounds and not know why? Do you want that to happen? Because to me, for my career, the most – most obvious example is Aaron Hernandez. Like he was drafted in the fourth round in 2010. And, um, you know, I, I had built up some background on him and then he went to the Patriots like rookie mini camp and like looked like Antonio Gates out there.
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It was like, Oh my God, like, look what they have. How, how is this guy available in the fourth round? Um, And I knew. So then I dug into it and I did more background. And I didn't print the worst stuff I'd heard. I corroborated everything. I talked to a dozen teams about it. And I put the story out. I was at the Globe at the time.
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And in the aftermath, Hernandez and the Patriots worked to bury me for it. But it was all true. I knew it was true. And Like, you know, like that was why he fell in the draft. And I'm not I'm not taking a victory lap on that. But it was like that stuff exists and it's why. And if you don't want to know why, then you don't have to consume it.
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If you don't know, if you don't want to know why, there are plenty of places where you can get.
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your entertainment where you don't have to find out about that but there's a lot of people that want to know why is this great player who maybe should have been the fifth overall pick going 30th right why is this guy the media has turned into a superstar still available in the second or third round of the draft if you want to know the truth on that sometimes the truth is something that isn't going to sound very good for the people involved right and for the record clearly not comparing
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No, no, no, no, no, no. That's the most extreme example. Yeah, I mean, it's it's the most extreme example, but it's like it happens all the time. And it's like, you know, teams put millions and millions and millions of dollars into finding out who these people are. It matters to them.
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I've heard Kevin Stefanski likes Tyler Shuck, the quarterback from Louisville. So we'll see. I don't... I... Somebody said to me, like, if she goes in the first round, it's going to be because an owner got involved, which was kind of funny. Funny way to put it. I don't know if that's really in play anymore. I'm not sure where he goes, to be honest with you.
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Now, he's got the relationship with Brady. I think there's some split opinion in the Raider building, though, on his ceiling. So, you know, I'm not sure. You know, I'm not sure where he goes. I don't think the Saints take him. Yeah. You know, like, it's just... There's a lot of uncertainty now.
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And look, history tells you, like, when these guys fall out of day one, in a lot of cases, they fall right through the second round. I think it's... I did the background on this. Let me pull it up. The number was... So this is going back. I went back 25 years. So the draft class is from 2000 to 2024, right to last year. And the results are pretty interesting.
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In the first round, 75 quarterbacks taken. In the second round, 24. In the third round, 33. So like a third of the amount of quarterbacks went in the second round that went in the first round. And you can combine... Second round and third round, you're still well short of first round.
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The reason why is because if you view a guy as a long-term starter for you, you're going to take him in the first round. And if he isn't, you're probably going to fill another position with a second or third round pick. So I think once you get past that... that first round for quarterbacks, things can get a little sketchy.
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So I like, I think Tyler Shuck and Shador are probably, and Jalen Milrow, those three, I think are the next three off the board, but I'm not sure in what order.
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33 and 36. Right. The Texans aren't taking one. The Titans aren't taking one. You have the Raiders there. That's possible. Although, again, I'm not sure on that. Patriots, no. Bears, no. Saints at eight. And then once you get past there, I don't think the Jets would do it.
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Was that based on mock drafts?
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I mean, it's like it's like it drives me crazy when people like act as if the betting odds like some guy in a smoky room in Vegas has a pipeline to like 32 war rooms. You know what I mean? Like drives me nuts. It's like, no, like that guy just read something that I wrote or that Adam said or that, you know, Ian said. And they're just taking it and pinning it. They're saying, oh, there it is.
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And then the line moves. You know, it's just I don't know. That stuff drives me nuts.
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Ryan, you know what that sounds like to me? That sounds to me like the draft's really popular. We should be involved in the draft, right? Yeah.
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Or maybe you don't talk to them anymore.
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All right. Thanks.
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Yeah. Monday, I'll have a bunch of stuff, have some video stuff and all of that. And then, yeah, like I still do some cleanup work over the next couple of weeks. So we'll have a bunch of stuff on the background and how stuff happened and happened and teams strategies with with what they did and all of that.