Albert Dolan

And politically, that's a problem too.

And is that the end game here, Albert, for you, that tax cuts might be possible if we can see where the money is being spent and further controls are put in place?

Those moves aren't that popular at cabinet level because there may be a price to be paid by other departments who are not responsible for overruns that happen in, let's say, education, which is the example that everyone's talking about.

I had a look at the tool that you put together this morning, and it tells me that a consultant was hired for something, but I don't fully see the picture.

Is that a problem with this?

As you've said earlier, they're answering a different question.

They're answering the question of were the rules followed as opposed to was I getting value for money?

Dan, just to get you in on that, that golden thread of information that Albert has just described, that we would have really detailed information on how much consultants were being paid, every line item we would know about it in a procurement contract.

Will that work?

Are we in this place though, Dan?

Is it a symptom of having too much money?

Some listener reaction to this, there's zero accountability when it comes to spending.

It doesn't matter how much they waste because if they run out, they could just hit the taxpayer for more.

We hear politicians boasting about how much they're spending like it is a medal of

honour but never seem to have to show how the money is being spent.

I work in the private sector and if we don't meet our budgets the heat comes on you.

Then we have an example from Stradbally in County Leash where the main street was resurfaced less than two years ago and has been dug up twice since.

So the new surface is all full of patchwork tarmac and has become uneven again.

That is not a good

example of public spending and another this is Ireland nothing is anyone's fault no one's to blame no one is taken to task onto the next disaster and more squandering of taxpayers money do you think Albert to finish on this that this is a symptom of having too much money