Alex Bean

That sounds nuts, but I can get into the nuances.

A lot of things that the banks couldn't offer us five years ago, that now they're fully built to offer to these fintechs.

So I think you're going to see a wave of innovation because of that.

Nuance, yeah.

And I'm actually, so here's...

Let me give the, every partnership is different, right?

So like anything I give here is not going to be definitive for all.

So Blake, my partner, my friend and partner came to me with the concept of Divi, right?

And we formulated it together, but his original idea was his and the name Divi came from him.

And frankly, he had the money to kind of help kickstart some of this.

How much did he kickstart it with?

Um,

I think that's private.

Sorry.

I don't know if we've disclosed that, but it was a decent amount of his own money to say, Hey, we're going to go design and engineer and do some stuff before we went and raised formula.

So he, he had, he has more than me, right?

Clearly it was, you know, he had it.

And the advice I would give a non CEO co-founder is you have to understand where you, where you sit for me.

I always knew Blake was the quarterback and I was the running back to use a football reference, meaning I,

We were partners and I don't think he could have done it without me, but I know I couldn't have done it without him.