Alex Cooper

Do you remember what that early, early success felt like and recognition?

No, I don't remember.

No matter how much pain I'm in.

Was any of that sudden like attention or validation healing immediately for you?

Well, people were like, wow, that's different.

I was going to say, I remember... Obviously, we think of models and we just expect them to be seen and not really heard.

Yeah.

And you...

brought this personality that was even if we didn't hear you actually speaking was just like popping off the page and it was so loud and it was so exciting to see but i agree i do remember some backlash of people being like yeah yeah what the fuck is this girl doing what is she doing you're not taking it seriously you're not working hard you're not which but to me i was like

But did you ever have people be like, you need to stop?

They just wouldn't hire me.

It's just a padded bra and latex.

I do think, though, something, and that is why you've had such success, is because you have never dimmed that side of yourself.

And you have stayed persistent and consistent in the day you got into this industry and the fun, kooky faces that you brought and the personality.

I think that as alienating as it probably was in the beginning, because you're all like, wait, guys, we all are in on this, right?

This is fucking crazy that they're doing this to these women.

And some of us are really privileged.

Yes.

From where we come from.

Right.