Alex Cooper

But I think now also maybe I hate to say it, but like in my relationship now, I think he has made me realize that

I don't need like outside validation because it has to come from within.

And how do you find that within?

You just, ew, I'm saying corny things on corny things.

Like I was going to say, you have to love yourself.

But it's true.

The 13 year olds are like.

Yeah, they're like.

Yeah.

And how do you love yourself?

I think you have to have a lot of grace for yourself.

You have to surround yourself with people who...

are like uplifting and non-judgmental no it's such a good point it's like the amount of times and everyone's timeline is going to be different but the amount of time you have to take at some point in your life to realize like you're going to keep getting a zero to nothing result when you're looking for other people's approval and you're looking for people to validate you and the minute that you are able to source that all within yourself there's still it will always be there of

But it can't be like the source of it.

No.

Okay, back to your album.

I love it because you write about kind of taboo topics.

How have fans reacted to some of these topics?

I think they're pretty chill.

You know?