Alex Cooper

Then you're like,

That is why your fans were so receptive of this, because, yes, it could be considered as a human being.

You're like, is this embarrassing?

I'm wanting this validation and I'm wanting this attention.

And I think it's such a relatable feeling, but it's something that we keep really close to our chest and we're embarrassed sometimes to admit.

I was so embarrassed of myself.

How do you think for you personally, your desire for validation and acceptance has impacted the way that you let people treat you?

You're like, I feel like in a couple of years, it's really going to turn around for me.

No, that's relatable.

It's like, you can't, please, please, if you're up there, please.

Let's talk about a major theme that I do think relates to this, which is in your album, is toxic relationships, right?

You open up about some of the toughest moments that you've been through in your life, essentially.

Mm-hmm.

How was writing about these feelings healing for you?

accepting that emotion for what it is and laughing about it at the same time but not being conscious about of about of like what other people would be thinking about me but i think that's why people were so receptive of this album because i feel like you've spent the majority of your career we saw you trying to be this perfect girl right and there was an image that was upheld with that i think then your fans would assume like there's no way this girl has experienced heartbreak or there's no way that rosie would get herself into a toxic relationship like she's better that and it's like

No, we've all been there.

So I think it was a breath of fresh air probably for your fans to be like, oh my God, you too?

Yes.

Feel bad.

Like, why aren't you better?