Alex Cooper

And you have stayed persistent and consistent in the day you got into this industry and the fun, kooky faces that you brought and the personality.

I think that as alienating as it probably was in the beginning, because you're all like, wait, guys, we all are in on this, right?

This is fucking crazy that they're doing this to these women.

And some of us are really privileged.

Yes.

From where we come from.

Right.

And they're perpetuating what actually was so painful to them coming into the industry.

And then it just keeps going and going and going.

And then it does take people like you, though.

That's what I'm saying.

It's like at first it probably was alienating.

But then I do think you refusing to conform in some capacity allowed room for other women coming up.

to look and be like, oh, well look at what Cara Delevingne's doing.

Like if she can do it, I can do my own version of that thing.

And I think we have to recognize as women that like when you felt like, oh God, I'm kind of this outlier doing this,

it feels that way but then now like you're referencing alex and all these other people you clearly were able to do something that then allowed some room for the next generation to do something and it will just continue but like it feels small but in the collective if you look at history of what women who push the boundaries do like what is that quote it's like well-behaved women rarely make history

And it's like, here we fucking go.

It is.

And it's almost like Freudian for us.