Alex Honnold

And I think that's – which, in a lot of ways, I mean, that's climbing in a nutshell.

It's, like, none of it really matters because, like, even freestyling El Cap, I mean, you can walk around the back.

Like, you know, it's, like, why put the years of effort into climbing the face when you can walk around the back?

Like, all of climbing is relatively meaningless.

And so, ultimately, it's the effort that we put into it that –

that has value.

And so I think that's what the film Girl Climber does a really good job of.

It's sort of like, oh, wow, she puts a lot into it and therefore gets a lot out of it for herself.

I think they love to see the effort.

I mean, the accomplishment, of course, but you love seeing somebody work really hard at something, try really hard, face their fears, overcome, and then ideally achieve something.

But I think it's the effort that's so inspiring.

I mean, at least personally, I love to see other people try that hard because it's a reminder that I can try that hard if I want to.

The Rocky training montage.

That's the best part of the movie.

I mean, a lot of those films, the best part is the training montage where it's like cuts to the person working really, really hard for a long time and like getting swole.

And then, then you get to the actual, then doing the thing and then doing the thing is, is cool.

Yeah.

But it's like them getting ready to do the thing is often the part that you're like, that's so awesome.

No feet.

But it's probably the dangling from your fingertips that I think a non-climber would –