Alex Honnold

And so you just wind up kind of like lean and not like a big gym, gym bro kind of thing.

Thank goodness I've never put on that much muscle.

No, you just don't really cramp.

You don't cramp?

Yeah, not really.

I've never...

I mean, sometimes if you're trying to climb El Cap in a day, like an 18-hour ascent or something, like climbing with a rope.

but free ascents like basically if you're doing really long climbs some of my friends sometimes will cramp because you're like late into you know post 12 hours into an athletic activity you're just a little more likely but i never i never have pretty much in general all my athletic performance is always a steady decline where i start and i'm doing great and then over the next you know 10 to 48 hours i just slowly get worse at a relatively linear rate

except that normally before sunrise of the next day it starts to drop quite a bit more you know like as you start getting close to 24 hours you're like I'm pretty fucking tired it's like but then when the sun comes up you've really like boost back up again and so then you're pretty good again you just keep on the linear decline so these are all night climbs

Yeah, I mean, I've done quite a number of things now that are, like, more than 24-hour outings.

You know, I mean, that's typically, like, climbing or mountain climbing.

So you're, like, hiking and climbing and then hiking some more and climbing some more, doing whatever.

But, yeah, generally, you know, by 24 to 36 hours, you're just...

yeah it's pretty incredible i mean also some of it with outdoor stuff is that uh just when you can see again you know it's like you've been going by headlamp for so long and typically by that point your headlamp is kind of dying you just don't see that well and then the sun comes up and you're like thank god and it's not cold anymore it's like this sun so you get this like breath of fresh air and then you just keep grinding have you um ever had or do you have any kind of like

No, I've always been a fierce atheist.

technically I was raised Catholic, so like I know religion a bit.

And I've just never, I've always been like, you know, it just doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm like, yeah, I'm strongly unreligious.

Though, I mean, I've been in so many beautiful places on earth and had so many, you know, what some would characterize as spiritual experiences, like feeling a oneness with nature, like a connection, you know, or just awe-inspiring beauty.

You know, when you're somewhere and you look out and you're like, oh, the universe is so incredible.