Alex Honnold

yeah it's pretty incredible i mean also some of it with outdoor stuff is that uh just when you can see again you know it's like you've been going by headlamp for so long and typically by that point your headlamp is kind of dying you just don't see that well and then the sun comes up and you're like thank god and it's not cold anymore it's like this sun so you get this like breath of fresh air and then you just keep grinding have you um ever had or do you have any kind of like

No, I've always been a fierce atheist.

technically I was raised Catholic, so like I know religion a bit.

And I've just never, I've always been like, you know, it just doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm like, yeah, I'm strongly unreligious.

Though, I mean, I've been in so many beautiful places on earth and had so many, you know, what some would characterize as spiritual experiences, like feeling a oneness with nature, like a connection, you know, or just awe-inspiring beauty.

You know, when you're somewhere and you look out and you're like, oh, the universe is so incredible.

This is like, the world is a magical place.

So, you know, I'm certainly open to general spiritualism, I suppose, or, you know, but no, I'm, I'm very opposed to organized religion.

Basically.

Biology is awe inspiring.

Yeah.

That's the thing is I'm like, I think there's enough wonder in the world and in the universe without adding all the layers of dogma, basically like all the weird things that you don't really need to believe.

Well, I'm sweating all over the wall.

So it's kind of the same idea.

And I'm leaving skin behind.

You're like, oh, my dips, it hurts.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

No, that's cool.