Alex Honnold

But I'm kind of into it.

I mean, it's, I don't know, this is all very like inside baseball.

Like how do you separate, like basically the highest level competitors are all very, very strong.

So then how do you separate them?

these different competitors who are all climbing at an elite level.

And one of the ways is complicated movement like that, like running jumps and coordination and things like that.

So I don't know.

I mean, I think it's cool.

Um, I've actually met like a couple of professional parkour athletes who also climb, uh, and they are really good at very particular sorts of things where you're like, it's, I mean, it's amazing to see.

amazing ambassador for the sport as it's gone through its various like you know peaks and valleys now in the olympics so i think climbing and sports like skateboarding and surfing have a lot in common in this way subculture but then also gets popular yeah with the kind of niche and then they become kind of mainstream but then even once they're mainstream they're still kind of cool you know like skateboarding it's like definitely not like full punk rock anymore but you're like it's pretty cool you know like skateboarding still

and it's not that common still you know and that's the thing with climbing is i'm kind of like yeah climbing is growing it's becoming more mainstream it's just never going to be you know soccer or something you know what i mean like it's always going to be slightly niche slightly countercultural because it's just you know it's just a smaller thing like it's just not playing basketball or something yeah i'm intrigued by um the training aspects and some of the fitness aspects i agree that it

Climbing is great for that.

Yeah, isn't that – I've always thought that's just a correlation.

It's just a correlation.

Because grip strength is just a proxy for all – it means that you use your body a lot and so therefore you're probably –

Like when I read those things about like if you have strong grip, it means this and this and this.

I'm like, no, if you have a strong grip, it means that you do stuff all the time.

And so as a result of doing stuff all the time, you're probably sharper than somebody who doesn't do stuff all the time.

And you're set.

Yeah, I think so.