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Alex Imas

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And so within that model, isn't it intrinsic that like the human-only economy will become a smaller and smaller share?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

It's probably worth the defining labor share and capital share real quick.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

The whole economy, like the total sum of goods and services sold is either paid out to people in wages or it's paid out to capital, which is to say that there's like rents on buildings and then there's shareholders of companies that get paid out and...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

For many hundreds of years in the economy, 60 something percent of the economy or all the things that are sold in a given year basically gets paid out to humans and wages.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And the other 30, 40 percent gets paid out to people who own machines and land and claims on companies and whatever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And the question is, well, right now, 60 percent is going to wages.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Does that shrink as automation evolves?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Or as EIs get smarter and smarter and better and better.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But it's not that surprising, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

I mean, if –

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Phil, you made this point that if labor and capital are complements, you need both to do anything.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

It kind of makes sense that you'd kind of need to pay both of them to get something done.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Although you had the post where you were pointing out that actually... Oh, yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But I guess, isn't there another point, which is that there's a lot of fully automated goods that don't even exist yet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And you can't collect any data right now about, say, how much people will want to keep buying more and more of some drug that makes you healthier.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Absolutely.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

That's fully produced by the AIs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Phil, I liked your analogy to some Mongolian economist sitting around 1400 thinking about what will be scarce and the limits of that kind of analysis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

I think you should talk to that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Sure.