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Alex Wagner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2243 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

That's the other thing is that you have to just be satisfied with like the actual making of the thing you're making as a thing that you want to do and feel proud of and feels worthwhile and is satisfying to you because of the value of it is what stranger social attention gets put on it. It's never, ever, ever going to feel good enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yes. One small concrete thing to do is to spend 20 minutes for your thoughts every day, meaning some 20 minute period. Just me and my thoughts. Just you and your thoughts. Not the TV, not other people. No podcasts, no phone. Maybe that's a commute. Maybe that's a drive. For me, it's a walk every day without listening to anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yes. One small concrete thing to do is to spend 20 minutes for your thoughts every day, meaning some 20 minute period. Just me and my thoughts. Just you and your thoughts. Not the TV, not other people. No podcasts, no phone. Maybe that's a commute. Maybe that's a drive. For me, it's a walk every day without listening to anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yes. One small concrete thing to do is to spend 20 minutes for your thoughts every day, meaning some 20 minute period. Just me and my thoughts. Just you and your thoughts. Not the TV, not other people. No podcasts, no phone. Maybe that's a commute. Maybe that's a drive. For me, it's a walk every day without listening to anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

We have gotten out of the habit of living with our own thoughts, but that's who you got to live with the rest of your life. And so if you're constantly seeking diversion so you don't have to do that, you're going to have a harder and harder time when you do have to be alone with your own thoughts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

We have gotten out of the habit of living with our own thoughts, but that's who you got to live with the rest of your life. And so if you're constantly seeking diversion so you don't have to do that, you're going to have a harder and harder time when you do have to be alone with your own thoughts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

We have gotten out of the habit of living with our own thoughts, but that's who you got to live with the rest of your life. And so if you're constantly seeking diversion so you don't have to do that, you're going to have a harder and harder time when you do have to be alone with your own thoughts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

How does that sound? It sounds great. Yeah, and it's pretty astonishing. I definitely spent a good part of Friday and then through the weekend just reading as much as I could about this because it is one of those moments in tech where you see happen and you don't really believe it's real until... You get confirmation. We do have confirmation that this is real.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

How does that sound? It sounds great. Yeah, and it's pretty astonishing. I definitely spent a good part of Friday and then through the weekend just reading as much as I could about this because it is one of those moments in tech where you see happen and you don't really believe it's real until... You get confirmation. We do have confirmation that this is real.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

How does that sound? It sounds great. Yeah, and it's pretty astonishing. I definitely spent a good part of Friday and then through the weekend just reading as much as I could about this because it is one of those moments in tech where you see happen and you don't really believe it's real until... You get confirmation. We do have confirmation that this is real.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

So basically what this team in China has done is they have made an architectural breakthrough. And I'm going to try to explain this in plain English in the development of AI models. So basically the way that Silicon Valley has been approaching the development of AI models to date.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

So basically what this team in China has done is they have made an architectural breakthrough. And I'm going to try to explain this in plain English in the development of AI models. So basically the way that Silicon Valley has been approaching the development of AI models to date.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

So basically what this team in China has done is they have made an architectural breakthrough. And I'm going to try to explain this in plain English in the development of AI models. So basically the way that Silicon Valley has been approaching the development of AI models to date.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

has been you put about as much money as possible into building these things by building massive data centers and throwing as much data as you possibly can into the process. And then you get better results. And that's proved true every time. And the architectural advancement that's been made in China is they have been able to build a model that's as good with much less money.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

has been you put about as much money as possible into building these things by building massive data centers and throwing as much data as you possibly can into the process. And then you get better results. And that's proved true every time. And the architectural advancement that's been made in China is they have been able to build a model that's as good with much less money.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

has been you put about as much money as possible into building these things by building massive data centers and throwing as much data as you possibly can into the process. And then you get better results. And that's proved true every time. And the architectural advancement that's been made in China is they have been able to build a model that's as good with much less money.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And this is the most important thing that costs about three to five percent of what it costs the other models to run. So let's say you're spending a dollar to run an algorithm or some sort of process with OpenAI. You can spend five cents to do it. With this Chinese model, bringing down the cost of using things like their chatbot, but also building any application on top of the model.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And this is the most important thing that costs about three to five percent of what it costs the other models to run. So let's say you're spending a dollar to run an algorithm or some sort of process with OpenAI. You can spend five cents to do it. With this Chinese model, bringing down the cost of using things like their chatbot, but also building any application on top of the model.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And this is the most important thing that costs about three to five percent of what it costs the other models to run. So let's say you're spending a dollar to run an algorithm or some sort of process with OpenAI. You can spend five cents to do it. With this Chinese model, bringing down the cost of using things like their chatbot, but also building any application on top of the model.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

So first of all, it's so funny because all of the worries about AI was that it was too expensive, right? People were seeing the fact that you have to spend these billions of dollars. Like OpenAI last year raised the biggest funding round in history at $6.6 billion. And the big complaint was, well, this... AI technology is too expensive to use.