Alex Wagner

I mean, this is one of those things where I spent time with voters of color leading into the 2024 election.

And a lot of them that I spoke with were ready to make peace with Trump.

But you gotta hope that this is the kind of shit they remember, you know?

And you don't have to be a voter of color to care about this.

In fact, you shouldn't just be a voter of color to care about this.

In fact, more white people should care about this.

But God, I hope they pay a price.

It is not okay.

And it's not funny.

And it just, it gives the, it gives...

It sheds light on the central, you know, tactic and the strategy here, which is, you know, race bait, make this about illegals, make, you know, poke fun at the Democrats as being a party that cares about brown and black people, make that a joke, make the welfare and the wellness and the survival of the weakest among us and those who've been, you know, just dealt the worst hands, make their unhappiness and their pain a thing to laugh at.

I mean, it's so awful.

I got to say, I thought Hakeem Jeffries did absolutely the right thing with speaking to my friend and former colleague Lawrence O'Donnell, you know, saying it's disgusting, saying it's racist, and then pivoting back to this is why we're in this fight and just going back to keeping the main thing the main thing.

But it is very hard to just let this pass and pivot to, you know, why Democrats are in this fight, because it's just appalling.

It's appalling.

Would you say, Dan, as a veteran of the Obama administration, that it's like a refashioning of the when they go low.

It's not that we go high.

It's like...

when they go low, we wipe the shit off of our feet.

I just don't even like, as we keep marching, I don't even know.