Alex Wagner

which is like up is down, down is up.

We are officially through the looking glass.

When you talk about the tactics, I mean, we were talking about Congress's role in all of this and the fact that they're not trained.

And I just feel like that's another subject for Congress, right?

Like if we want ICE agents to receive proper training and I don't know, not use ban chokeholds and like use the most extraordinary and extreme measures to detain people who are largely peaceful, right?

What does that look like?

Does it just have to be, you know, House Republicans and Senate Republicans agreeing that this is un-American and this shouldn't happen and doing something legislatively about it?

Or what is the process?

And yet we still, I mean, the person who was reportedly killed was, I believe, strangled to death, but also had a sort of violent criminal record, which makes it not okay to kill him in jail under federal custody, but it does make it politically more complicated for Democrats to rush to his defense, I think, or anyone to rush to his defense.

Not that that is warranted necessarily, but it makes the calculus a little bit more complicated.

Sure.

I mean, big picture here, like as we look at the state of Minnesota, right?

I mean, what legal recourse does the state actually have here?

And let me just drill down on that a little bit more and say, could in theory, because this is something that's been floated in multiple interviews I've heard with the mayor, Jacob Fry, if not the police chief, can the local police in Minneapolis go after ICE agents?

Those were the before times.

Right.

When you didn't have basically Trump's masked thugs out there just ripping people from their cars and places of work and places of worship and hospitals.

Okay, let's talk about the aftermath of the shooting, right?

Because an interesting thing happened at the U.S.

Attorney's Office.