Alex Wagner

I mean, we've been focusing on our own little autocracy here in the United States, right? Yeah. But there's so many similar parallels between Trump and Orban, not just in terms of policy, the focus on marginalized communities, immigrants, the media, the courts, but in terms of posture, the obsession on the part of the far right wing with Orban. He's a regular at CPAC conferences.

Trump very much fashions himself in terms of Orban and being a strong man.

Trump very much fashions himself in terms of Orban and being a strong man.

Trump very much fashions himself in terms of Orban and being a strong man.

Yeah, he's politically weak.

Yeah, he's politically weak.

Yeah, he's politically weak.

Because he's steered Hungary's economy into the dumpster.

Because he's steered Hungary's economy into the dumpster.

Because he's steered Hungary's economy into the dumpster.

Yeah, exactly. And there's a challenger in the wings. His name is Peter Magyar, and he's a wild man. He's not a progressive, but he has been really speaking out about corruption. He's been putting in a lot of time speaking across Hungary.

Yeah, exactly. And there's a challenger in the wings. His name is Peter Magyar, and he's a wild man. He's not a progressive, but he has been really speaking out about corruption. He's been putting in a lot of time speaking across Hungary.

Yeah, exactly. And there's a challenger in the wings. His name is Peter Magyar, and he's a wild man. He's not a progressive, but he has been really speaking out about corruption. He's been putting in a lot of time speaking across Hungary.

He is a traditionally handsome man. He is very traditionally handsome man. I think that that's not hurt, his case. But I think part of the reason people feel emboldened enough to do what they're doing to come out every Tuesday is because they think this could be the turning point. They think the 2026 elections could be where Orban is ousted finally. I mean, he's been in power for 15 years, Tim.

He is a traditionally handsome man. He is very traditionally handsome man. I think that that's not hurt, his case. But I think part of the reason people feel emboldened enough to do what they're doing to come out every Tuesday is because they think this could be the turning point. They think the 2026 elections could be where Orban is ousted finally. I mean, he's been in power for 15 years, Tim.

He is a traditionally handsome man. He is very traditionally handsome man. I think that that's not hurt, his case. But I think part of the reason people feel emboldened enough to do what they're doing to come out every Tuesday is because they think this could be the turning point. They think the 2026 elections could be where Orban is ousted finally. I mean, he's been in power for 15 years, Tim.

And he has transformed that country. He has consolidated the media landscape. He has attacked civil liberties. I mean, it is stunning what he has done. And I think part of the reason, I mean, I know part of the reason we wanted to go over there is because I think America can learn a lot about its near future by looking at Hungary and its recent past.

And he has transformed that country. He has consolidated the media landscape. He has attacked civil liberties. I mean, it is stunning what he has done. And I think part of the reason, I mean, I know part of the reason we wanted to go over there is because I think America can learn a lot about its near future by looking at Hungary and its recent past.

And he has transformed that country. He has consolidated the media landscape. He has attacked civil liberties. I mean, it is stunning what he has done. And I think part of the reason, I mean, I know part of the reason we wanted to go over there is because I think America can learn a lot about its near future by looking at Hungary and its recent past.

I mean, I actually think that's the thing. I was talking to Marta Pardavi, who is an amazing civil rights, civil liberties lawyer. And she said, actually, in 2015, Orban was really successfully able to scapegoat the migrant population, the European refugee crisis.