Alex Wagner

I mean, we live in Trumpland. It's just the reality of the situation. I hate to break it to everybody. It may not be forever, but that's where we're at.

I mean, we live in Trumpland. It's just the reality of the situation. I hate to break it to everybody. It may not be forever, but that's where we're at.

Well, there is a fine calculation between how much the word Trump in any given title is an attractant or a repellent.

Well, there is a fine calculation between how much the word Trump in any given title is an attractant or a repellent.

Well, there is a fine calculation between how much the word Trump in any given title is an attractant or a repellent.

So I do think, though, I mean, we're looking at Trump land not just through the lens of Trump, but the people also affected by Trumpism and his policies and promises. So it's not just about the dude. In fact, I would say it's a lot less about the dude and more about the sort of broader contours of the country he is creating.

So I do think, though, I mean, we're looking at Trump land not just through the lens of Trump, but the people also affected by Trumpism and his policies and promises. So it's not just about the dude. In fact, I would say it's a lot less about the dude and more about the sort of broader contours of the country he is creating.

So I do think, though, I mean, we're looking at Trump land not just through the lens of Trump, but the people also affected by Trumpism and his policies and promises. So it's not just about the dude. In fact, I would say it's a lot less about the dude and more about the sort of broader contours of the country he is creating.

Please, go. It's your podcast.

Please, go. It's your podcast.

Please, go. It's your podcast.

I'm a terrible guest. I am a terrible guest, but I'm telling you that now that I'm already booked and we've started this.

I'm a terrible guest. I am a terrible guest, but I'm telling you that now that I'm already booked and we've started this.

I'm a terrible guest. I am a terrible guest, but I'm telling you that now that I'm already booked and we've started this.

I mean, this is like my question. It's like, can you imagine, by the way, can you imagine the crowd sizes debate litigated in Trump 2.0? I mean, I feel like you have that clip.

I mean, this is like my question. It's like, can you imagine, by the way, can you imagine the crowd sizes debate litigated in Trump 2.0? I mean, I feel like you have that clip.

I mean, this is like my question. It's like, can you imagine, by the way, can you imagine the crowd sizes debate litigated in Trump 2.0? I mean, I feel like you have that clip.

I mean, can I just say the difference between then and now is it was just stupid Sam Spicer embarrassing himself, you know, like becoming a national parody. And now there's actual retribution. The idea that the AP is not being allowed in, is being punished for adhering to reality. It's not good, Tim. Very George Orwell. All of this.

I mean, can I just say the difference between then and now is it was just stupid Sam Spicer embarrassing himself, you know, like becoming a national parody. And now there's actual retribution. The idea that the AP is not being allowed in, is being punished for adhering to reality. It's not good, Tim. Very George Orwell. All of this.

I mean, can I just say the difference between then and now is it was just stupid Sam Spicer embarrassing himself, you know, like becoming a national parody. And now there's actual retribution. The idea that the AP is not being allowed in, is being punished for adhering to reality. It's not good, Tim. Very George Orwell. All of this.