Alex Wagner

Wait, you're saying it's not made in that state, Tim?

Wait, you're saying it's not made in that state, Tim?

Wait, you're saying it's not made in that state, Tim?

Yeah. I mean, I just think there's a time and a place for the analysis and the rancor and the, you know, that sort of steam valve opening, but that shouldn't be it. And like, we have to better understand what's actually happening in the country because otherwise you keep getting hit with a tidal wave every four years, you know?

Yeah. I mean, I just think there's a time and a place for the analysis and the rancor and the, you know, that sort of steam valve opening, but that shouldn't be it. And like, we have to better understand what's actually happening in the country because otherwise you keep getting hit with a tidal wave every four years, you know?

Yeah. I mean, I just think there's a time and a place for the analysis and the rancor and the, you know, that sort of steam valve opening, but that shouldn't be it. And like, we have to better understand what's actually happening in the country because otherwise you keep getting hit with a tidal wave every four years, you know?

Thanks, Tim.

Thanks, Tim.

Thanks, Tim.

How many of you feel like you know people either in your family or your circle of friends who are suffering adverse health effects because of the proximity of this plant?

How many of you feel like you know people either in your family or your circle of friends who are suffering adverse health effects because of the proximity of this plant?

Thank you for airing it, Rachel. I think so much of what Trump is doing right now, they're betting on the abstract, right? They're betting that shutting down the Environmental Justice Department of the EPA doesn't alarm people. We don't think about the human cost of all that. And I've covered a lot of stories in the field, Rachel. This was one of the hardest I've ever borne witness to.

Thank you for airing it, Rachel. I think so much of what Trump is doing right now, they're betting on the abstract, right? They're betting that shutting down the Environmental Justice Department of the EPA doesn't alarm people. We don't think about the human cost of all that. And I've covered a lot of stories in the field, Rachel. This was one of the hardest I've ever borne witness to.

I mean, this is a community of people who have borne tragedy like I think almost no one else has. A lot of these people, you know, one of the men I talked to, he grew up on a former plantation. These are the children of sharecroppers, and those sharecroppers were the children of slaves.

I mean, this is a community of people who have borne tragedy like I think almost no one else has. A lot of these people, you know, one of the men I talked to, he grew up on a former plantation. These are the children of sharecroppers, and those sharecroppers were the children of slaves.

A lot of these plants, Rachel, most of them, in fact, in the area, are on the grounds of former plantations, right? There's nowhere else in Louisiana that has that stretch of land. And it's been cleared to make way for plants that the Biden administration believed was poisoning the community.

A lot of these plants, Rachel, most of them, in fact, in the area, are on the grounds of former plantations, right? There's nowhere else in Louisiana that has that stretch of land. And it's been cleared to make way for plants that the Biden administration believed was poisoning the community.

And I just for a moment thought deeply about not the irony, but the symmetry of of what were, you know, former institutions that visited trauma upon visitation. communities of color and these plants that are now reportedly, and again, according to the EPA under Joe Biden, visiting a different kind of trauma to the current population of reserve Louisiana.

And I just for a moment thought deeply about not the irony, but the symmetry of of what were, you know, former institutions that visited trauma upon visitation. communities of color and these plants that are now reportedly, and again, according to the EPA under Joe Biden, visiting a different kind of trauma to the current population of reserve Louisiana.

I want to play a little bit of sound where we talked about that, if I could, that legacy of slavery to petrochemical industries.