Alex Wagner

I want to play a little bit of sound where we talked about that, if I could, that legacy of slavery to petrochemical industries.

What does that tell you as people of color in this country?

What does that tell you as people of color in this country?

Yeah, I will say, I mean, they have been grappling with this for decades and they have been going to local and state officials and federal officials, even under Obama and early Biden. They felt like their cries weren't being heard, that there was not a level of concern that matched the threat they were facing.

Yeah, I will say, I mean, they have been grappling with this for decades and they have been going to local and state officials and federal officials, even under Obama and early Biden. They felt like their cries weren't being heard, that there was not a level of concern that matched the threat they were facing.

And so when Michael Regan, who is the EPA head under Biden, who is also black, came down and met with Robert Taylor, the older gentleman that you saw in that earlier clip and said, we're going to do something about this. I think they reluctantly believed him. Right. They finally felt like, OK, we've reached a threshold at which they can't ignore this anymore.

And so when Michael Regan, who is the EPA head under Biden, who is also black, came down and met with Robert Taylor, the older gentleman that you saw in that earlier clip and said, we're going to do something about this. I think they reluctantly believed him. Right. They finally felt like, OK, we've reached a threshold at which they can't ignore this anymore.

At the same time, you know, I think you can talk to many people of color in this country who don't take any advancement for granted. And so I don't think there was. And from the conversations I had, a ton of surprise that Trump was going to reverse it. But at the same time, Rachel. There is a tenacity and a resilience in this community.

At the same time, you know, I think you can talk to many people of color in this country who don't take any advancement for granted. And so I don't think there was. And from the conversations I had, a ton of surprise that Trump was going to reverse it. But at the same time, Rachel. There is a tenacity and a resilience in this community.

I mean, Robert Taylor, the man that we just talked about, is 84 years old. He picked me up in his red pickup truck and he drove me all around the town. The police came after us at one point. They are unafraid of the consequences here because they got nothing to lose. They admit it on this panel. They're like, most of us won't live to see this, the conclusion of all of this.

I mean, Robert Taylor, the man that we just talked about, is 84 years old. He picked me up in his red pickup truck and he drove me all around the town. The police came after us at one point. They are unafraid of the consequences here because they got nothing to lose. They admit it on this panel. They're like, most of us won't live to see this, the conclusion of all of this.

But they're fighting for the next generation and they're not giving up.

But they're fighting for the next generation and they're not giving up.

J.D. Vance lecturing everybody on what a family means, what it means to be a man. Donald Trump obviously has his own version of manhood. To see Tim Walz out there as a man who is just joyfully embracing his role, talking about struggles with infertility, it takes two partners to get pregnant. And for way too long, this conversation has been relegated to women or the carriers of pregnancy.

J.D. Vance lecturing everybody on what a family means, what it means to be a man. Donald Trump obviously has his own version of manhood. To see Tim Walz out there as a man who is just joyfully embracing his role, talking about struggles with infertility, it takes two partners to get pregnant. And for way too long, this conversation has been relegated to women or the carriers of pregnancy.

J.D. Vance lecturing everybody on what a family means, what it means to be a man. Donald Trump obviously has his own version of manhood. To see Tim Walz out there as a man who is just joyfully embracing his role, talking about struggles with infertility, it takes two partners to get pregnant. And for way too long, this conversation has been relegated to women or the carriers of pregnancy.

But I do think there were some sort of Easter eggs of white nationalism in the speech. One of the long sort of a paragraph, at least, about this plot in eastern Kentucky where his seven or six generations of his family are buried. And his hope is that his wife and he are eventually laid to rest there and their kids follow them. The white male lineage that Trump's.

But I do think there were some sort of Easter eggs of white nationalism in the speech. One of the long sort of a paragraph, at least, about this plot in eastern Kentucky where his seven or six generations of his family are buried. And his hope is that his wife and he are eventually laid to rest there and their kids follow them. The white male lineage that Trump's.

But I do think there were some sort of Easter eggs of white nationalism in the speech. One of the long sort of a paragraph, at least, about this plot in eastern Kentucky where his seven or six generations of his family are buried. And his hope is that his wife and he are eventually laid to rest there and their kids follow them. The white male lineage that Trump's.

that defines the family history, that that branch of the tree supersedes all else. And I just think the construction of this notion reveals a lot about someone who fundamentally believes in the supremacy of whiteness and masculinity. And it's couched in a sort of halcyon, you know, revisitation of his roots, but it is actually really revealing about what he thinks matters. I...