Alex Wagner

I mean, they are going to fight back in the, I think the most buttoned up, you know, lawful way possible, but they're raising their hands and legally and saying, you can't do this to us. That's resistance. The resistance as we see is all in the courts, Tim. And I think there's the good and the bad, right? Some of the courts are going to be great.

If we get to the Supreme Court, I think Trump has a real shot of getting a lot of what he wants, if not everything he wants. So, I mean, the other part of the resistance is the American public. And I do think it's been distressing to see the lack of engagement on any of these topics that should fire up the American citizenry.

If we get to the Supreme Court, I think Trump has a real shot of getting a lot of what he wants, if not everything he wants. So, I mean, the other part of the resistance is the American public. And I do think it's been distressing to see the lack of engagement on any of these topics that should fire up the American citizenry.

If we get to the Supreme Court, I think Trump has a real shot of getting a lot of what he wants, if not everything he wants. So, I mean, the other part of the resistance is the American public. And I do think it's been distressing to see the lack of engagement on any of these topics that should fire up the American citizenry.

Very, very, very limp. I mean, I think that the legal front, first of all, they've been ready for this, you know, before the, even the election, these legal groups, they knew what was coming and they were prepared in the state AGs hats off to them. They've been tenacious and very fast and, But the courts are the courts. And we are talking about politics here.

Very, very, very limp. I mean, I think that the legal front, first of all, they've been ready for this, you know, before the, even the election, these legal groups, they knew what was coming and they were prepared in the state AGs hats off to them. They've been tenacious and very fast and, But the courts are the courts. And we are talking about politics here.

Very, very, very limp. I mean, I think that the legal front, first of all, they've been ready for this, you know, before the, even the election, these legal groups, they knew what was coming and they were prepared in the state AGs hats off to them. They've been tenacious and very fast and, But the courts are the courts. And we are talking about politics here.

And I talked to Chris Ruffo yesterday, the architect of a lot of Trump's anti-woke agenda. And he's like, we got the public is with us 100%. And until and unless there is real public disfavor and a sense that the public isn't with them, then maybe they're right.

And I talked to Chris Ruffo yesterday, the architect of a lot of Trump's anti-woke agenda. And he's like, we got the public is with us 100%. And until and unless there is real public disfavor and a sense that the public isn't with them, then maybe they're right.

And I talked to Chris Ruffo yesterday, the architect of a lot of Trump's anti-woke agenda. And he's like, we got the public is with us 100%. And until and unless there is real public disfavor and a sense that the public isn't with them, then maybe they're right.

I don't believe that they are because I fundamentally don't believe that the values that are being reflected in this administration are in sync with where the country that I know is at. But I mean, where is everyone? I think people feel demoralized and beaten down and confused and just overwhelmed.

I don't believe that they are because I fundamentally don't believe that the values that are being reflected in this administration are in sync with where the country that I know is at. But I mean, where is everyone? I think people feel demoralized and beaten down and confused and just overwhelmed.

I don't believe that they are because I fundamentally don't believe that the values that are being reflected in this administration are in sync with where the country that I know is at. But I mean, where is everyone? I think people feel demoralized and beaten down and confused and just overwhelmed.

But I also don't think that's an excuse because this is the country and it's all moving fast, but that's exactly why people need to get involved if they have an issue with it.

But I also don't think that's an excuse because this is the country and it's all moving fast, but that's exactly why people need to get involved if they have an issue with it.

But I also don't think that's an excuse because this is the country and it's all moving fast, but that's exactly why people need to get involved if they have an issue with it.

I would say also like the more cases that the Supreme Court is really good at nibbling around the edges and a number of things in each of its opinions, right? Like the affirmative action case, you know, with Harvard and admissions, you know, that's the jurisprudence they're working off of to do all this DEI stuff, right? Like there's precedent set in all of these rulings.

I would say also like the more cases that the Supreme Court is really good at nibbling around the edges and a number of things in each of its opinions, right? Like the affirmative action case, you know, with Harvard and admissions, you know, that's the jurisprudence they're working off of to do all this DEI stuff, right? Like there's precedent set in all of these rulings.

I would say also like the more cases that the Supreme Court is really good at nibbling around the edges and a number of things in each of its opinions, right? Like the affirmative action case, you know, with Harvard and admissions, you know, that's the jurisprudence they're working off of to do all this DEI stuff, right? Like there's precedent set in all of these rulings.

Honestly, regardless of whether they're favorable or not favorable, Clarence Thomas opens the door to maybe rescinding gay marriage and throwing that out the window, too. You don't want to have to get the whole Trump agenda in front of the 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court. That's not a great long-term play, to your point. And like public outcry matters.