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Alex Wagner

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The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

I mean, it's unbelievable how predictable.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

I mean, it's unbelievable how predictable.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

One of the examples of someone who is unpredictable is John Fetterman.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

One of the examples of someone who is unpredictable is John Fetterman.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

One of the examples of someone who is unpredictable is John Fetterman.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Don't just listen to the white pod boys. It's actually pretty good advice. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying this to praise Fetterman's politics because he said some things that I, like, truly, really, actually, like, upset me. Some of the stuff that he's talked about Gaza, particularly just from, like, a human empathetic level, not independent of, like, his politics of who he supports.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Don't just listen to the white pod boys. It's actually pretty good advice. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying this to praise Fetterman's politics because he said some things that I, like, truly, really, actually, like, upset me. Some of the stuff that he's talked about Gaza, particularly just from, like, a human empathetic level, not independent of, like, his politics of who he supports.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Don't just listen to the white pod boys. It's actually pretty good advice. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying this to praise Fetterman's politics because he said some things that I, like, truly, really, actually, like, upset me. Some of the stuff that he's talked about Gaza, particularly just from, like, a human empathetic level, not independent of, like, his politics of who he supports.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

But, yeah, he definitely is pretty good at getting attention in his own strange way. And he is definitely not predictable, like, to the point where, like, when he voted against Hegseth, I was like, okay...

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

But, yeah, he definitely is pretty good at getting attention in his own strange way. And he is definitely not predictable, like, to the point where, like, when he voted against Hegseth, I was like, okay...

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

But, yeah, he definitely is pretty good at getting attention in his own strange way. And he is definitely not predictable, like, to the point where, like, when he voted against Hegseth, I was like, okay...

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yeah, I think that's right. And again, I think that's just because when they're in that interview, they're not thinking about how do I keep people's attention? They're thinking about how do I not screw up and make news? I mean, again, that's that is that's the key part of the orientation here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yeah, I think that's right. And again, I think that's just because when they're in that interview, they're not thinking about how do I keep people's attention? They're thinking about how do I not screw up and make news? I mean, again, that's that is that's the key part of the orientation here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yeah, I think that's right. And again, I think that's just because when they're in that interview, they're not thinking about how do I keep people's attention? They're thinking about how do I not screw up and make news? I mean, again, that's that is that's the key part of the orientation here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

The broad thesis is that we live in an age, you know, if the defining resource of the industrial age was fossil fuels, and if you look at 1961 of the top 10 companies by, you know, assets, it was like oil companies and like DuPont and General Motors, right? Physical production and... If you look now, it's attention companies and that's Google and it's meta. It's to a certain extent, Microsoft.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

The broad thesis is that we live in an age, you know, if the defining resource of the industrial age was fossil fuels, and if you look at 1961 of the top 10 companies by, you know, assets, it was like oil companies and like DuPont and General Motors, right? Physical production and... If you look now, it's attention companies and that's Google and it's meta. It's to a certain extent, Microsoft.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

The broad thesis is that we live in an age, you know, if the defining resource of the industrial age was fossil fuels, and if you look at 1961 of the top 10 companies by, you know, assets, it was like oil companies and like DuPont and General Motors, right? Physical production and... If you look now, it's attention companies and that's Google and it's meta. It's to a certain extent, Microsoft.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

It's definitely Apple, which, of course, inaugurated the attention age with the birth of the iPhone in 2007. It's the guys on stage next to Donald Trump. And there's a few important things I think to say here. One is it's already intuitive that we have this like break between the old industrial economy and the new digital like information economy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

It's definitely Apple, which, of course, inaugurated the attention age with the birth of the iPhone in 2007. It's the guys on stage next to Donald Trump. And there's a few important things I think to say here. One is it's already intuitive that we have this like break between the old industrial economy and the new digital like information economy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

It's definitely Apple, which, of course, inaugurated the attention age with the birth of the iPhone in 2007. It's the guys on stage next to Donald Trump. And there's a few important things I think to say here. One is it's already intuitive that we have this like break between the old industrial economy and the new digital like information economy.