Alex Wagner

Yeah, no, I agree. And I think partly that is... I don't know how much that's a Trumpian transformation, though, too. I mean, I think partly it is. Obama participated in that. Obama was an enormous cultural figure. I mean, he's the most famous person in the country and the biggest star in the world. That was the attack ad from John McCain. That was a very funny attack ad. People forget this.

It was like, he's the biggest star in the world. And it was like, the attack ad was like, this guy is so popular. People love him so much.

It was like, he's the biggest star in the world. And it was like, the attack ad was like, this guy is so popular. People love him so much.

It was like, he's the biggest star in the world. And it was like, the attack ad was like, this guy is so popular. People love him so much.

for you he's such a famous fancy boy like justin bieber famous fancy boy he's a fancy lad but but yeah i think the other thing that i think is worth thinking about here in the context of like attention as resource and how it functions in politics is the less public attention there is on a political race the more it could function in the old way Right.

for you he's such a famous fancy boy like justin bieber famous fancy boy he's a fancy lad but but yeah i think the other thing that i think is worth thinking about here in the context of like attention as resource and how it functions in politics is the less public attention there is on a political race the more it could function in the old way Right.

for you he's such a famous fancy boy like justin bieber famous fancy boy he's a fancy lad but but yeah i think the other thing that i think is worth thinking about here in the context of like attention as resource and how it functions in politics is the less public attention there is on a political race the more it could function in the old way Right.

So, you know, state rep races are still a lot of knocking on doors and talking to people. And I think what you're saying is, yes, it's probably there's still a lot of that at the gubernatorial level.

So, you know, state rep races are still a lot of knocking on doors and talking to people. And I think what you're saying is, yes, it's probably there's still a lot of that at the gubernatorial level.

So, you know, state rep races are still a lot of knocking on doors and talking to people. And I think what you're saying is, yes, it's probably there's still a lot of that at the gubernatorial level.

But once you get to the presidential level, raising a lot of money and running a bunch of ads or and door knocking campaign, which the Harris campaign, to be clear, did very well and pretty effectively. Like something I always tell people that the Harris campaign is look at the margins of that race in New York, New Jersey and California.

But once you get to the presidential level, raising a lot of money and running a bunch of ads or and door knocking campaign, which the Harris campaign, to be clear, did very well and pretty effectively. Like something I always tell people that the Harris campaign is look at the margins of that race in New York, New Jersey and California.

But once you get to the presidential level, raising a lot of money and running a bunch of ads or and door knocking campaign, which the Harris campaign, to be clear, did very well and pretty effectively. Like something I always tell people that the Harris campaign is look at the margins of that race in New York, New Jersey and California.

The campaign was actually pretty darn effective because the environment sucked. Like, they did much better in the swing states where they were running a focused campaign than in the states where there was zero campaign. The states with zero campaign... Those numbers are nuts, right? That's why he won the popular vote.

The campaign was actually pretty darn effective because the environment sucked. Like, they did much better in the swing states where they were running a focused campaign than in the states where there was zero campaign. The states with zero campaign... Those numbers are nuts, right? That's why he won the popular vote.

The campaign was actually pretty darn effective because the environment sucked. Like, they did much better in the swing states where they were running a focused campaign than in the states where there was zero campaign. The states with zero campaign... Those numbers are nuts, right? That's why he won the popular vote.

And yet, it wasn't enough to overcome the overall attentional environment, which is the thing that Trump dominated.

And yet, it wasn't enough to overcome the overall attentional environment, which is the thing that Trump dominated.

And yet, it wasn't enough to overcome the overall attentional environment, which is the thing that Trump dominated.

I mean, it's unbelievable how predictable.