Alex Wissner-Gross

How do you think about a future where, as discussed earlier, you have the open AIs and the anthropics chasing the most valuable tokens they possibly can and saying, gosh, Blitzy is making so much profit or at least so much revenue per token.

Why don't we just natively scale up our capabilities to do that?

Why are you not squarely in their roadmaps?

Are they your competition?

Yeah.

Cursor, famously also in a similar position where for a while there, they were being accused of being a clod wrapper.

Then they announced their own model, which may or may not, again, I don't know, may or may not have been at least fine-tuned off of reasoning traces off of customers.

Is Blitze going to launch its own model?

Why aren't you launching your own model?

I'm not even sure if you think so, Brian.

I just want to pull on that narrow point.

Are you hiring more AI researchers under the premise that AI algorithms are the last to go?

Or are you hiring more sales folks or forward-deployed engineers on the premise that high-touch human interaction is the last thing to go?

Palantir used that model to great success.

It's nothing to be ashamed of to be hiring forward deployed engineers.

I think we're bearing the lead here.

So back in the day, this is, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago, Peter and I were both supporting Patry Friedman's Seasteading Institute, which was focused on ocean colonization.

I used to give talks at the Seasteading Institute.

I think if I were to try to get into Peter's head on this, I don't think it's about the data centers.

I think it's about building seasteads.