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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

there's a lot of stuff you have to consider.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, and so, uh, that's really the, the, the step change here is just like a, uh, like dramatically accelerating situational awareness, dramatically accelerating, like an understanding of what the different course actions are, what could happen, what are the consequences, um, and surfacing that to commander.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Does it make a recommendation?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, this is kind of an interesting thing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We go back and forth if we want to make a recommendation because ultimately, like...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

we don't want to just be like, you know, we don't want to let commanders kind of like sleepwalk, if that makes sense.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We want them to like, you know, our military commanders are the best humans in the world, like considering all of the potential consequences of these different course of action.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And also considering, you know, and ultimately making a call based on those potential consequences.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So I think we want to ensure that

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

commanders are still exercising their judgment in these decisions versus just making it easier for them to just say, oh, go with what the AI says.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Interesting.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Wow.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But then, okay, think about what happens next.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And this is where stuff gets really freaky.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Let's say that obviously in a world where just the blue force, just the United States has this capability, that's great.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We're gonna be running circles around everyone else.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But then what happens if the red force, China, Russia, whomever, also has the capability.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Then you're in this situation where I've war-gamed out the whole situation.