Alexandr (Alex) Wang

Everyone was so surprised at how capable their model was and how they learned all these tricks.

You know, how much of that is because they came up with all of them on their own or they managed to have a like exquisite high-end espionage operation to steal all of our trade secrets from the United States and then re-implement them back in China.

Well, there was a

I think nowhere close to as good.

I mean, I think, um, so one thing that, uh, that, that the CCP did for deep seek, the deep seek lab is, um, after deep seek blew up and, uh, and, um, the CEO of deep seek met with the Chinese premier, uh, they then locked up all the researchers into a, um, uh, insight.

I shouldn't say locked up, but they like huddle all the researchers together and they took all their passports.

So, none of the AI researchers who work at DeepSeek are able to leave the country at all.

And they don't come into contact with any foreigners.

So, they basically locked down the entire research effort.

So, that makes it very, very hard to conduct any sort of espionage into that operation.

And then there's that report.

This is all in the news.

A decade ago, 15 years ago, many of the CIA operatives, US CIA operatives in China were all killed because they were sort of compromised because one of the communication channels they were using was compromised by Chinese intelligence and the CCP was able to effectively round a lot of them up and kill them.

are comparable.

Their espionage on us is like extremely deep, you know, huge risk.

There's incredible amounts of, you know, we're deeply, deeply penetrated by Chinese Intel.

And comparatively, as far as I know, we have like, you know, much less capability.

And I think they've designed it so that it's very hard to infiltrate their AI efforts.

Jeez.

So that's other, so they're, they're, you know, they're, they're ahead of us on data.